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Monoclass DPR Comparison: Eldritch Knight Archer vs Melee Arcane Trickster
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<blockquote data-quote="Esker" data-source="post: 7615332" data-attributes="member: 6966824"><p>This feels like a familiar caveat (pun certainly intended)...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Owlvantage is clearly very much an issue of YMMV. My arcane trickster gets it a lot, as the DM rarely tries to kill the owl (smart owl tactics help too: it's generally pretty obvious if the enemy is readying a melee attack to swipe at it during a flyby, so just don't that round; then they waste their action which is even better than advantage. As for AoEs, camping out directly above the enemy is pretty useful to avoid those, since any AoE that would hit the owl either would also hit the caster or wouldn't hit any other party members. And how many enemies are going to spend a fireball just to kill a familiar, or fireball themselves to kill a familiar?</p><p></p><p>But again, even aside from the owl, the shadow blade wielding arcane trickster has a lot of other possible sources of advantage: dim light, versatile trickster, and anything an ally might do. Using the owl to help only to fill in the gaps likely also helps the familiar survive.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not ignoring it...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not to mention, I did this analysis based on Hex assuming that the eldritch knight was using it all the time, but since the build in question got it from magic initiate, they can actually only use it an hour a day. So I was overstating the EK's damage a bit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Esker, post: 7615332, member: 6966824"] This feels like a familiar caveat (pun certainly intended)... Owlvantage is clearly very much an issue of YMMV. My arcane trickster gets it a lot, as the DM rarely tries to kill the owl (smart owl tactics help too: it's generally pretty obvious if the enemy is readying a melee attack to swipe at it during a flyby, so just don't that round; then they waste their action which is even better than advantage. As for AoEs, camping out directly above the enemy is pretty useful to avoid those, since any AoE that would hit the owl either would also hit the caster or wouldn't hit any other party members. And how many enemies are going to spend a fireball just to kill a familiar, or fireball themselves to kill a familiar? But again, even aside from the owl, the shadow blade wielding arcane trickster has a lot of other possible sources of advantage: dim light, versatile trickster, and anything an ally might do. Using the owl to help only to fill in the gaps likely also helps the familiar survive. Not ignoring it... Not to mention, I did this analysis based on Hex assuming that the eldritch knight was using it all the time, but since the build in question got it from magic initiate, they can actually only use it an hour a day. So I was overstating the EK's damage a bit. [/QUOTE]
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