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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 7653819" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Actually, from a taxonomical point of view I'd be inclined to "lump" Canomorphs out of existence.</p><p></p><p>A Haraknin Canomorph, for example, is basically just a Hell Hound with class levels and a couple of special abilities. From a taxonomy perspective I'd say it's just an augmented Hell Hound.</p><p></p><p>A Human who gains the ability to turn into an animal due to druid wild shaping or lycanthropic shapeshifting doesn't stop being a Human, so I'd think the three Canomorphs are, at least "genealogically" speaking, whichever variety of fiendish hound they can turn into. It'd be a simple matter to write a Canomorph template to turn any canine outsider into a Canomorph.</p><p></p><p>Barghests, by contrast, seem to be much more clearly a separate creature in their own right. Well, they do in 1st to 3rd edition. The 4E Barghest is some sort of shapechanging goblin.</p><p></p><p>Although if you wanted to make Barghest a variety of Canomorph, or closely related to them, I'd say go for it. They both certainly fall into a "shapeshifting canine fiend" niche. Or maybe there's a more indirect relationship between the two - the <em>Fiend Folio</em> doesn't say how the demons and devils give Canomorphs their shapeshifting ability, so maybe it involves them grafting Barghest pelts on them or something.</p><p></p><p>Whatever adds enjoyment to the game is right for the game, really. I happen to enjoy niggling over the minutia of monsters in my spare time, but others may differ!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 7653819, member: 57383"] Actually, from a taxonomical point of view I'd be inclined to "lump" Canomorphs out of existence. A Haraknin Canomorph, for example, is basically just a Hell Hound with class levels and a couple of special abilities. From a taxonomy perspective I'd say it's just an augmented Hell Hound. A Human who gains the ability to turn into an animal due to druid wild shaping or lycanthropic shapeshifting doesn't stop being a Human, so I'd think the three Canomorphs are, at least "genealogically" speaking, whichever variety of fiendish hound they can turn into. It'd be a simple matter to write a Canomorph template to turn any canine outsider into a Canomorph. Barghests, by contrast, seem to be much more clearly a separate creature in their own right. Well, they do in 1st to 3rd edition. The 4E Barghest is some sort of shapechanging goblin. Although if you wanted to make Barghest a variety of Canomorph, or closely related to them, I'd say go for it. They both certainly fall into a "shapeshifting canine fiend" niche. Or maybe there's a more indirect relationship between the two - the [I]Fiend Folio[/I] doesn't say how the demons and devils give Canomorphs their shapeshifting ability, so maybe it involves them grafting Barghest pelts on them or something. Whatever adds enjoyment to the game is right for the game, really. I happen to enjoy niggling over the minutia of monsters in my spare time, but others may differ! [/QUOTE]
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