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<blockquote data-quote="Dungeonosophy" data-source="post: 7708156" data-attributes="member: 6688049"><p>Thanks for the BECMI stats and for being understanding about Warduke. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I understand that you're not delving into Golarion and the vast ocean of OGL-licensed worlds. Yes, the ENCyclopedia is about the D&D-branded worlds. I agree that Garweeze Wurld is not a D&D-branded world. And though HackMaster 4E was a direct licensing agreement between WotC and Kenzer for a "parody" of the AD&D ruleset, it is still only an adaptation of the D&D <em>rules</em>, not the D&D brand, so I agree that Garweeze Wurld as a whole, is not fitting for the ENCyclopedia.</p><p></p><p>However, I still wish that the few HackMaster modules which were officially licensed parodies of specific D&D adventures, would be included someday. I think those few adventure modules were produced under a separate licensing agreement, since they not only parody the AD&D ruleset (like the rest of HM4E), but also a parody of specific places and characters from the D&D worlds. They are basically a WotC-licensed parody of the D&D Multiverse:</p><p></p><p>B1: <a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51682/quest-for-the-unknown" target="_blank">Quest for the Unknown</a> (2002)</p><p>B2: <a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/50059/little-keep-on-the-borderlands" target="_blank">Little Keep on the Borderlands</a> (2002)</p><p><a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51846/smackdown-the-slavers" target="_blank">Smackdown the Slavers</a> (2002)</p><p>G1-3: <a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51847/annihilate-the-giants" target="_blank">Annihilate the Giants</a> (2002)</p><p><a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/55116/robinloft" target="_blank">Robinloft</a> (December 2002)</p><p>D1-2: <a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/55105/descent-into-the-netherdeep" target="_blank">Descent Into the Netherdeep</a> (2003)</p><p>S1: <a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51681/tomb-of-unspeakable-horrors" target="_blank">Tomb of Unspeakable Horrors</a> (2003)</p><p><a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51863/white-doom-mountain" target="_blank">White Doom Mountain</a> (2003)</p><p>T1-4: <a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51704/the-temple-of-existential-evil" target="_blank">The Temple of Existential Evil</a> (2003)</p><p>C1: <a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51684/the-hidden-shrine" target="_blank">The Hidden Shrine</a> (2003)</p><p>C2: <a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/55107/demon-tower-of-madness" target="_blank">Demon Tower of Madness</a> (2003)</p><p>I2: <a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51757/crypt-of-the-lizard-king" target="_blank">Crypt of the Lizard King</a> (2004)</p><p>S4: <a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/55108/lost-caverns" target="_blank">Lost Caverns</a> (2004)</p><p><a href="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/111175/robinloft-2-tahds-legacy" target="_blank">Robinloft 2: Tahd's Legacy</a> (November 2004)</p><p></p><p>Still, I understand that one must draw the line somewhere - especially if you don't own those books anyway! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">Do you, in principle, include these D&D-branded worlds?:</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p>1e & 2e Lankhmar</p><p>1e Conan</p><p>3e Kalamar</p><p>3e Diablo</p><p>3e Warcraft: The Roleplaying Game (not to be confused with the subsequent OGL World of Warcraft).</p><p></p><p>Again, I understand if there's no intention to include them; since they though they use a D&D-branded ruleset, they aren't part of the D&D Multiverse.</p><p></p><p>But there is one official D&D world which had its own product line and logo, but which almost everyone forgets -- and that is Blackmoor. The 3e-era Blackmoor books by Goodman and Zeitgeist Games were licensed by WotC, in a similar way that Margaret Weis Productions produced the licensed 3e Dragonlance line.</p><p></p><p>Yes, there are at least four Blackmoors: 1) a few aspects of Blackmoor were incorporated into Greyhawk's Blackmoor, 2) Blackmoor existed as part of Mystara's ancient past, and 3) there is also a Blackmoor which was tied to the Judge's Guild "City State" setting, but 4) Blackmoor also existed as a distinct planet: Arneson intended to publish a distinct planetary map for Blackmoor, proving that it was considered to be a distinct world.</p><p></p><p>If you want help with finding Blackmoor monster references, Havard at the Blackmoor Archive site might lend a hand.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I'm just being uber-completist - I love your work as-is. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dungeonosophy, post: 7708156, member: 6688049"] Thanks for the BECMI stats and for being understanding about Warduke. :) I understand that you're not delving into Golarion and the vast ocean of OGL-licensed worlds. Yes, the ENCyclopedia is about the D&D-branded worlds. I agree that Garweeze Wurld is not a D&D-branded world. And though HackMaster 4E was a direct licensing agreement between WotC and Kenzer for a "parody" of the AD&D ruleset, it is still only an adaptation of the D&D [I]rules[/I], not the D&D brand, so I agree that Garweeze Wurld as a whole, is not fitting for the ENCyclopedia. However, I still wish that the few HackMaster modules which were officially licensed parodies of specific D&D adventures, would be included someday. I think those few adventure modules were produced under a separate licensing agreement, since they not only parody the AD&D ruleset (like the rest of HM4E), but also a parody of specific places and characters from the D&D worlds. They are basically a WotC-licensed parody of the D&D Multiverse: B1: [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51682/quest-for-the-unknown"]Quest for the Unknown[/URL] (2002) B2: [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/50059/little-keep-on-the-borderlands"]Little Keep on the Borderlands[/URL] (2002) [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51846/smackdown-the-slavers"]Smackdown the Slavers[/URL] (2002) G1-3: [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51847/annihilate-the-giants"]Annihilate the Giants[/URL] (2002) [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/55116/robinloft"]Robinloft[/URL] (December 2002) D1-2: [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/55105/descent-into-the-netherdeep"]Descent Into the Netherdeep[/URL] (2003) S1: [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51681/tomb-of-unspeakable-horrors"]Tomb of Unspeakable Horrors[/URL] (2003) [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51863/white-doom-mountain"]White Doom Mountain[/URL] (2003) T1-4: [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51704/the-temple-of-existential-evil"]The Temple of Existential Evil[/URL] (2003) C1: [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51684/the-hidden-shrine"]The Hidden Shrine[/URL] (2003) C2: [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/55107/demon-tower-of-madness"]Demon Tower of Madness[/URL] (2003) I2: [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/51757/crypt-of-the-lizard-king"]Crypt of the Lizard King[/URL] (2004) S4: [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/55108/lost-caverns"]Lost Caverns[/URL] (2004) [URL="http://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/111175/robinloft-2-tahds-legacy"]Robinloft 2: Tahd's Legacy[/URL] (November 2004) Still, I understand that one must draw the line somewhere - especially if you don't own those books anyway! :) [LEFT][COLOR=#000000]Do you, in principle, include these D&D-branded worlds?: [/COLOR][/LEFT] 1e & 2e Lankhmar 1e Conan 3e Kalamar 3e Diablo 3e Warcraft: The Roleplaying Game (not to be confused with the subsequent OGL World of Warcraft). Again, I understand if there's no intention to include them; since they though they use a D&D-branded ruleset, they aren't part of the D&D Multiverse. But there is one official D&D world which had its own product line and logo, but which almost everyone forgets -- and that is Blackmoor. The 3e-era Blackmoor books by Goodman and Zeitgeist Games were licensed by WotC, in a similar way that Margaret Weis Productions produced the licensed 3e Dragonlance line. Yes, there are at least four Blackmoors: 1) a few aspects of Blackmoor were incorporated into Greyhawk's Blackmoor, 2) Blackmoor existed as part of Mystara's ancient past, and 3) there is also a Blackmoor which was tied to the Judge's Guild "City State" setting, but 4) Blackmoor also existed as a distinct planet: Arneson intended to publish a distinct planetary map for Blackmoor, proving that it was considered to be a distinct world. If you want help with finding Blackmoor monster references, Havard at the Blackmoor Archive site might lend a hand. Anyway, I'm just being uber-completist - I love your work as-is. :) [/QUOTE]
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