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<blockquote data-quote="13garth13" data-source="post: 5893666" data-attributes="member: 16979"><p>Oh, I do concur (make no mistake about it, I am all about peace between editions, no matter how much certain elements of 4E drive me up the bloody wall<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />). And in a perfect, rational world, that really would be the end of it, eh?</p><p></p><p>The problem is that a number (and I'll call it a large number, but I don't know if it's a majority, or just a really big minority) of old fans really felt slapped in the face by the roll-out to 4E, not to mention the huge changes to "crunch" and "fluff" (the latter of which resulted in numerous cases of classic thirty year history being thrown under the edition bus) which resulted in an edition that for the first time in a looooooooooooong time not only didn't feel/play like a game they enjoyed, but sometimes seemed to revel and embrace how truly unlike D&D it was. Now some of the reactions by fans were not only a bit much, there were a few fans who in my eyes were downright, over-the-top, histrionic, pathetically ridiculous in terms of their responses to 4E (no argument from me). But, when WOTC is rolling out this new edition, they've still got to avoid any strong whiff of 4E, <u><strong>modular or not</strong></u>, because otherwise (if say, healing surges are a part of the core game experience and not just a module, just for example) even those who felt mildly jilted/left-in-the-lurch are not going to come back to the game.</p><p></p><p>Is it rational? Naw, not really IMNSHO, but then again, neither are some of the "deal-breakers" set aside by some 4E proponents either.</p><p></p><p>Fact is, there's a whole lotta non-rational, purely gut-level emotional reacting going on right now, and I feel bad for WOTC employees who have to navigate this illogical mine-field.</p><p></p><p>As I said initially, as far as I'm concerned 4E elements can be all over the next edition as long as they are clearly marked as "optional" and can be EFFORTLESSLY stripped away from the game. But lots of other posters feel a lot more strongly, and what with there being plenty of non-WOTC offerings out there for game night, WOTC really can't afford to bollocks up this roll-out.</p><p></p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Colin</p><p></p><p>P.S. Best of luck to WOTC....between the irrational, fanatic 4E fans (for whom apparently even talking about how cool the 3E fighter was, and for a lot of my players, the 3E fighter ROCKED), and the irrational, fanatic 1/2/3E fans (geez, given how divergent 4E was, take your pick of possible issues to chew on), they've really got their work cut out for them, and to be bluntly honest, I'm not sure they can achieve their goal without alienating one group or the other.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="13garth13, post: 5893666, member: 16979"] Oh, I do concur (make no mistake about it, I am all about peace between editions, no matter how much certain elements of 4E drive me up the bloody wall;)). And in a perfect, rational world, that really would be the end of it, eh? The problem is that a number (and I'll call it a large number, but I don't know if it's a majority, or just a really big minority) of old fans really felt slapped in the face by the roll-out to 4E, not to mention the huge changes to "crunch" and "fluff" (the latter of which resulted in numerous cases of classic thirty year history being thrown under the edition bus) which resulted in an edition that for the first time in a looooooooooooong time not only didn't feel/play like a game they enjoyed, but sometimes seemed to revel and embrace how truly unlike D&D it was. Now some of the reactions by fans were not only a bit much, there were a few fans who in my eyes were downright, over-the-top, histrionic, pathetically ridiculous in terms of their responses to 4E (no argument from me). But, when WOTC is rolling out this new edition, they've still got to avoid any strong whiff of 4E, [U][B]modular or not[/B][/U], because otherwise (if say, healing surges are a part of the core game experience and not just a module, just for example) even those who felt mildly jilted/left-in-the-lurch are not going to come back to the game. Is it rational? Naw, not really IMNSHO, but then again, neither are some of the "deal-breakers" set aside by some 4E proponents either. Fact is, there's a whole lotta non-rational, purely gut-level emotional reacting going on right now, and I feel bad for WOTC employees who have to navigate this illogical mine-field. As I said initially, as far as I'm concerned 4E elements can be all over the next edition as long as they are clearly marked as "optional" and can be EFFORTLESSLY stripped away from the game. But lots of other posters feel a lot more strongly, and what with there being plenty of non-WOTC offerings out there for game night, WOTC really can't afford to bollocks up this roll-out. Cheers, Colin P.S. Best of luck to WOTC....between the irrational, fanatic 4E fans (for whom apparently even talking about how cool the 3E fighter was, and for a lot of my players, the 3E fighter ROCKED), and the irrational, fanatic 1/2/3E fans (geez, given how divergent 4E was, take your pick of possible issues to chew on), they've really got their work cut out for them, and to be bluntly honest, I'm not sure they can achieve their goal without alienating one group or the other. [/QUOTE]
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