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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 5894090" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>I agree empirical data is hard to come by on these debates (and often both sides play with two different sets of facts). But the common wisdom appears to be 4e failed, was overshadowed by pathfinder and that is why we saw so many firings and a new edition announcement 3-4 years into 4e (depending on how you count). I realize some argue there is more to the story than that or they try to equate 3.5 with a new edition and therefore say 5e is on schedule, but I personally don't find these convincing and at this point in the debate i think the person trying to call 4e a huge success needs to be the one furnishing proofl </p><p></p><p>Just from my own experience I have never seen an edition war this intense or protracted, nor have I seen my local gaming community as divided over an edition as they are over 4e. For years now store owners have told me pathfinder was outselling D&D and that the player base was split. A few years ago D&D being challenged by another game (even a retroclone of a previous edition) was unthinkable. The last time I remember something like this wa swhen white wolf was biting at the heels of 2E in the 90s. So i am pretty well convinced this is more than 4e simply failing to meet an unreaistic corporate exepctation and all about 4e being the cause of D&D losing ground to other alternatives.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 5894090, member: 85555"] I agree empirical data is hard to come by on these debates (and often both sides play with two different sets of facts). But the common wisdom appears to be 4e failed, was overshadowed by pathfinder and that is why we saw so many firings and a new edition announcement 3-4 years into 4e (depending on how you count). I realize some argue there is more to the story than that or they try to equate 3.5 with a new edition and therefore say 5e is on schedule, but I personally don't find these convincing and at this point in the debate i think the person trying to call 4e a huge success needs to be the one furnishing proofl Just from my own experience I have never seen an edition war this intense or protracted, nor have I seen my local gaming community as divided over an edition as they are over 4e. For years now store owners have told me pathfinder was outselling D&D and that the player base was split. A few years ago D&D being challenged by another game (even a retroclone of a previous edition) was unthinkable. The last time I remember something like this wa swhen white wolf was biting at the heels of 2E in the 90s. So i am pretty well convinced this is more than 4e simply failing to meet an unreaistic corporate exepctation and all about 4e being the cause of D&D losing ground to other alternatives. [/QUOTE]
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