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<blockquote data-quote="seankreynolds" data-source="post: 8262571" data-attributes="member: 3029"><p>It's a weird quirk of how the game has changed a bit since 3e.</p><p></p><p>In the 3e PH, there weren't hill dwarves and mountain dwarves, there were just dwarves (I don't think the other dwarf types were in the SRD, so third-party publishers couldn't use them). And likewise there weren't wood elves and high elves and such, there were just elves. </p><p></p><p>So 3e Ptolus didn't differentiate between Grailwarden and Stonelost dwarves with stats, it was all cultural, so either type just used the regular dwarf entry in the PH. Likewise, Shoal elves just used the regular elf entry in the PH. So that's what we did with 5e Ptolus: Grailwarden and Stonelost dwarves both use the regular "dwarf" entry in the 5e PH, and Shoal elves use the regular "elf" entry.</p><p></p><p>The 5e dwarf entry does say to choose hill or mountain, so yeah, your players can choose which one they want. And the 5e elf entry does say to choose high or wood elf*, so your players should choose there as well. Unless you as GM want these named kinds of Ptolus dwarves and elves to be mapped to specific 5e subspecies.</p><p></p><p>* Or dark elf, but those are pushed into the NPC-only category unless the GM allows them as PCs, with all the caveats at the top of 5e Ptolus page 60.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seankreynolds, post: 8262571, member: 3029"] It's a weird quirk of how the game has changed a bit since 3e. In the 3e PH, there weren't hill dwarves and mountain dwarves, there were just dwarves (I don't think the other dwarf types were in the SRD, so third-party publishers couldn't use them). And likewise there weren't wood elves and high elves and such, there were just elves. So 3e Ptolus didn't differentiate between Grailwarden and Stonelost dwarves with stats, it was all cultural, so either type just used the regular dwarf entry in the PH. Likewise, Shoal elves just used the regular elf entry in the PH. So that's what we did with 5e Ptolus: Grailwarden and Stonelost dwarves both use the regular "dwarf" entry in the 5e PH, and Shoal elves use the regular "elf" entry. The 5e dwarf entry does say to choose hill or mountain, so yeah, your players can choose which one they want. And the 5e elf entry does say to choose high or wood elf*, so your players should choose there as well. Unless you as GM want these named kinds of Ptolus dwarves and elves to be mapped to specific 5e subspecies. * Or dark elf, but those are pushed into the NPC-only category unless the GM allows them as PCs, with all the caveats at the top of 5e Ptolus page 60. [/QUOTE]
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