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<blockquote data-quote="Adb0782" data-source="post: 8259808" data-attributes="member: 6945705"><p>Sorry but im not really sure to had understand what you mean.</p><p></p><p>Assuming a character mounting something, we know he have separete initiative with the mount, except the mount is trained and the character mounting it decide to control it. If he control it, the mount share its initiative with him, but it can only take the disangage, dash or dodge action.</p><p></p><p>The animal companion of a beastmaster share its initiative with the ranger because of its own rules, and this make a huge difference with other mounts in my opionion, as anyone CAN choose to control a mount for benefit of a shared initiative (as they normally dont have a shared initiative with their mount), but as the beastmaster companion already share its initiative with the ranger, he dont need to control it, because they already share initiative as a companion rule, even not controlling the companion they will keep sharing initiative.</p><p></p><p>I found nothing against it and it seem have more sense to my eyes than be forced to control it even if they already got the one benefit of controlled mounts by other rule, or to say that if he choose to dont control it than it lose the shared initiative (that is right for anyone else, because they have no other source of shared initiative, but the beast master share its initiative with the companion indeed because thats his companion, not because he is controlling it).</p><p></p><p>Also reading it: "The initiative of a controlled mount changes to match yours when you mount it." The initiative of the companion dont change, its already the same initiative of the ranger.</p><p></p><p>And also "An independent mount retains its place in the initiative order", its place in the initiative order is the same place of the ranger, no where it say an independent mount cant share the initiative with the ranger if it already does so by other rule, it just say that its place in the order dont change, and indeed it dont change: its the same place of the ranger in the initiative order, as before mounting it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Adb0782, post: 8259808, member: 6945705"] Sorry but im not really sure to had understand what you mean. Assuming a character mounting something, we know he have separete initiative with the mount, except the mount is trained and the character mounting it decide to control it. If he control it, the mount share its initiative with him, but it can only take the disangage, dash or dodge action. The animal companion of a beastmaster share its initiative with the ranger because of its own rules, and this make a huge difference with other mounts in my opionion, as anyone CAN choose to control a mount for benefit of a shared initiative (as they normally dont have a shared initiative with their mount), but as the beastmaster companion already share its initiative with the ranger, he dont need to control it, because they already share initiative as a companion rule, even not controlling the companion they will keep sharing initiative. I found nothing against it and it seem have more sense to my eyes than be forced to control it even if they already got the one benefit of controlled mounts by other rule, or to say that if he choose to dont control it than it lose the shared initiative (that is right for anyone else, because they have no other source of shared initiative, but the beast master share its initiative with the companion indeed because thats his companion, not because he is controlling it). Also reading it: "The initiative of a controlled mount changes to match yours when you mount it." The initiative of the companion dont change, its already the same initiative of the ranger. And also "An independent mount retains its place in the initiative order", its place in the initiative order is the same place of the ranger, no where it say an independent mount cant share the initiative with the ranger if it already does so by other rule, it just say that its place in the order dont change, and indeed it dont change: its the same place of the ranger in the initiative order, as before mounting it. [/QUOTE]
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