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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 6116877" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hey Rhuarc amigo! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I know BUT if I am going with the 32 page format then I'd rather go with 32 pages of epic content that people would like to see, rather than stuff they are a bit "meh" about. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I suppose. The Iron Tower of Dispater stuff does look like spanning more than 32 pages and I think that is me falling into the same trap as before where the content just 'organically' grows until it is 48, then 64 pages and so on.</p><p></p><p>I'll have a last look at it tonight, maybe I can get it to 32 by cutting some stuff. There were 3 golems in there and they were taking up 10 pages because of the Guardian (Minion) - Golem (Standard) - Sentinel (Elite) - Gargant (Solo) - Colossi (Mega-sized Super Solo) iterations.</p><p></p><p>The main space taker were the NINE Dukes of Dispater. All Solo monsters, probably 2 pages each, making 18 pages for those alone.</p><p></p><p>Then say 2 more for Dispater, 9 more for various devils, 1 for the Abomination and 1 for the Dragonspawn. then say 4-5 more pages for various things <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> and then the obligatory 4 pages for Credits/Contents/Encounter Level Table/Previews:</p><p></p><p>PAGES: 4 (basic) + 10 (golems) + 18 (dukes) + 9 (various devils) + 2 (Dispater) + 2 (Abom & Dragonspawn) + 4-5 (other stuff) = 50 pages. I mean I could probably cut that down to 48 total somehow. But its still WAY bigger than 32 pages.</p><p></p><p>I could probably even cut that into two and make TWO 32 page books, add the Mega-size rules into the first and the UNIT rules into the second (or vice versa given you would encounter the armies OUTSIDE the city).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Had a look at this last night. The Nosferatu stuff is the lowest level spread (closely followed by the Iron Tower of Dispater stuff).</p><p></p><p>So maybe Shadowfell/Nosferatu - Dispater/Hells - Asura/Elemental Chaos - Disir/Temporal. Although I don't really want to do another Vampire-centric book after the three Vampire Bestiary volumes.</p><p></p><p>I also don't think the Dispater stuff will work at a mere 32 pages.</p><p></p><p>Maybe:</p><p>A. <strong>The Iron Hell</strong> (32 pages on the second layer of Hell, introducing Dispater's army, Generals and the UNIT rules with examples)</p><p>B. <strong>The Iron Tower of Dispater</strong> (32 pages on Dis itself, its Dukes, Dispater, his defences including the MEGA-SIZE rules with examples)</p><p>...then I can bunch those together into a 64 page book.</p><p></p><p><strong>thats sounding like a plan...</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I know, I'd probably spend 6 months planning the best approach to get it perfect rather than just working on it and getting it out in any order. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/blush.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":blush:" title="Blush :blush:" data-shortname=":blush:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 6116877, member: 326"] Hey Rhuarc amigo! :) I know BUT if I am going with the 32 page format then I'd rather go with 32 pages of epic content that people would like to see, rather than stuff they are a bit "meh" about. I suppose. The Iron Tower of Dispater stuff does look like spanning more than 32 pages and I think that is me falling into the same trap as before where the content just 'organically' grows until it is 48, then 64 pages and so on. I'll have a last look at it tonight, maybe I can get it to 32 by cutting some stuff. There were 3 golems in there and they were taking up 10 pages because of the Guardian (Minion) - Golem (Standard) - Sentinel (Elite) - Gargant (Solo) - Colossi (Mega-sized Super Solo) iterations. The main space taker were the NINE Dukes of Dispater. All Solo monsters, probably 2 pages each, making 18 pages for those alone. Then say 2 more for Dispater, 9 more for various devils, 1 for the Abomination and 1 for the Dragonspawn. then say 4-5 more pages for various things ;) and then the obligatory 4 pages for Credits/Contents/Encounter Level Table/Previews: PAGES: 4 (basic) + 10 (golems) + 18 (dukes) + 9 (various devils) + 2 (Dispater) + 2 (Abom & Dragonspawn) + 4-5 (other stuff) = 50 pages. I mean I could probably cut that down to 48 total somehow. But its still WAY bigger than 32 pages. I could probably even cut that into two and make TWO 32 page books, add the Mega-size rules into the first and the UNIT rules into the second (or vice versa given you would encounter the armies OUTSIDE the city). Had a look at this last night. The Nosferatu stuff is the lowest level spread (closely followed by the Iron Tower of Dispater stuff). So maybe Shadowfell/Nosferatu - Dispater/Hells - Asura/Elemental Chaos - Disir/Temporal. Although I don't really want to do another Vampire-centric book after the three Vampire Bestiary volumes. I also don't think the Dispater stuff will work at a mere 32 pages. Maybe: A. [B]The Iron Hell[/B] (32 pages on the second layer of Hell, introducing Dispater's army, Generals and the UNIT rules with examples) B. [B]The Iron Tower of Dispater[/B] (32 pages on Dis itself, its Dukes, Dispater, his defences including the MEGA-SIZE rules with examples) ...then I can bunch those together into a 64 page book. [B]thats sounding like a plan...[/B] I know, I'd probably spend 6 months planning the best approach to get it perfect rather than just working on it and getting it out in any order. :blush: [/QUOTE]
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