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<blockquote data-quote="Mephista" data-source="post: 7227809" data-attributes="member: 6786252"><p>However, others have used it as an example, and its what I was specifically talking about when you responded to me. You can't try and change the goal posts.</p><p></p><p>Now, as I said, I think that Str/Dex should be easily flippable in this situation, no matter the class. But that's the kind of a situation that's easily fixed without tossing out all stats. If that was the only problem, then its trivally easy to fix without throwing out the whole rule set. </p><p></p><p> Ehh.. that's kind of disingenuous. The 4e paladin can run entirely off Charisma if you build it right, including swinging a sword; you basically have CHA-finesse. There's nothing equivalent in 5e, and trying to suggest that the two are equal is misleading. </p><p></p><p>And, while on the matter? While something similar looks doable with a high Charisma and running Oath of Devotion, using Channel Divinity? Too many times you ran out of uses and became unable to contribute to combat without a solid Dex or Str score. Its been tried before, and while it looks good on paper, it just doesn't work unless your GM is very generous with short rests after every single combat.</p><p></p><p> So, forget the DEX/STR tweaks; that's a function of finesse weapons, and easily fixable in another manner. Have you ever had a character without decent stats in their main? A warlock, sorcerer or bard without Charisma. A Fighter without decent levels in a physical stat. Barbarian without good Strength or Stamina. And so on. Because that's the argument going on here. </p><p></p><p>Your paladin is not a good example for throwing out the stat requirements.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mephista, post: 7227809, member: 6786252"] However, others have used it as an example, and its what I was specifically talking about when you responded to me. You can't try and change the goal posts. Now, as I said, I think that Str/Dex should be easily flippable in this situation, no matter the class. But that's the kind of a situation that's easily fixed without tossing out all stats. If that was the only problem, then its trivally easy to fix without throwing out the whole rule set. Ehh.. that's kind of disingenuous. The 4e paladin can run entirely off Charisma if you build it right, including swinging a sword; you basically have CHA-finesse. There's nothing equivalent in 5e, and trying to suggest that the two are equal is misleading. And, while on the matter? While something similar looks doable with a high Charisma and running Oath of Devotion, using Channel Divinity? Too many times you ran out of uses and became unable to contribute to combat without a solid Dex or Str score. Its been tried before, and while it looks good on paper, it just doesn't work unless your GM is very generous with short rests after every single combat. So, forget the DEX/STR tweaks; that's a function of finesse weapons, and easily fixable in another manner. Have you ever had a character without decent stats in their main? A warlock, sorcerer or bard without Charisma. A Fighter without decent levels in a physical stat. Barbarian without good Strength or Stamina. And so on. Because that's the argument going on here. Your paladin is not a good example for throwing out the stat requirements. [/QUOTE]
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