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<blockquote data-quote="Pickles JG" data-source="post: 4321379" data-attributes="member: 61501"><p>If the most efficient multiclass is probably taking the 4 feats then choosing a Paragon path relating to the secondary class for 6 powers. the biggest issue with this is IMO that you do not get an at will from both classes.</p><p></p><p>The feat thing is 3 ed thinking -> feats are more common & generally less powerful in 4. Multiclass ones are amongst the best ones. Any melee character can MC into the warlord one for a once a day heal for example.</p><p></p><p>"Paragon" multiclassing does seem a bit too expensive. The powers are fine - to get your at will you get a level 7 encounter power (vs a level 11) a level 10 utility vs 12 & a level 19 daily vs level 20. This is a barely noticeable difference.</p><p>The loss of the level 11 & level 16 Paragon features is more of a hit. </p><p>I expect feats will let you buy some class feature at some point - but giving them <em>all </em> free cf the earlier post in the thread is far too much.</p><p></p><p>As with most of these themes the last quoted pargraph seems to imply that the OP just wants more power. I am not saying he does it's just that the context of multiclassing it is always "I want more" without stating what one is willing to give up for the flexibilty.</p><p></p><p>What you can clearly do in 4ed is refluff your powers. eg Anvil of Doom (F 13) could become Channelled Shock with the same effect - & your DM may let you alter the damage type to all or part Lightning or allow it with different weapons. (I would let the damage type change & would let the other bit work provided weapon based powers & feats were not being cherry picked)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pickles JG, post: 4321379, member: 61501"] If the most efficient multiclass is probably taking the 4 feats then choosing a Paragon path relating to the secondary class for 6 powers. the biggest issue with this is IMO that you do not get an at will from both classes. The feat thing is 3 ed thinking -> feats are more common & generally less powerful in 4. Multiclass ones are amongst the best ones. Any melee character can MC into the warlord one for a once a day heal for example. "Paragon" multiclassing does seem a bit too expensive. The powers are fine - to get your at will you get a level 7 encounter power (vs a level 11) a level 10 utility vs 12 & a level 19 daily vs level 20. This is a barely noticeable difference. The loss of the level 11 & level 16 Paragon features is more of a hit. I expect feats will let you buy some class feature at some point - but giving them [I]all [/I] free cf the earlier post in the thread is far too much. As with most of these themes the last quoted pargraph seems to imply that the OP just wants more power. I am not saying he does it's just that the context of multiclassing it is always "I want more" without stating what one is willing to give up for the flexibilty. What you can clearly do in 4ed is refluff your powers. eg Anvil of Doom (F 13) could become Channelled Shock with the same effect - & your DM may let you alter the damage type to all or part Lightning or allow it with different weapons. (I would let the damage type change & would let the other bit work provided weapon based powers & feats were not being cherry picked) [/QUOTE]
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