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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 7640536" data-attributes="member: 5142"><p>I operated more from the general opinion that if I were to steal a god, do it from Greyhawk. I definitely considered replacing Bane with Hextor, since (1) he had a "silly name" and (2) he is an odd-god-out of the Dawn War bunch from Forgotten Realms. But I think having Hextor without Heironeous would have been slightly off-putting, and Bahamut already occupies that niche. As it turns out, Bane does have a "real name" according to 4e lore: Achra. </p><p></p><p>Thanks. She's still "the Raven Queen," but the Raven Queen happens to also be an aspect of a less mustache-twirling Lloth. But given the harshness of the Underdark, its denizens have a similarly darker, fatalistic slant on her teachings, similar to the shadar-kai. </p><p></p><p>I will also say that I'm not the biggest fan of the direction that Mearls took her in 5e. That said, I believe in the Nentir Vale lore, the Raven Queen did take Lloth's domain of 'fate' so there was definitely a precedent. So your idea of having the Raven Queen replace Lloth also works. </p><p></p><p>I would love to hear more about your take on the Nentir Vale. IMHO, the Nentir Vale was probably one of the most underrated things that came out of 4e. Though I am also a huge fan of Chris Perkins's nautical take on the PoL setting: Iomandra. </p><p></p><p>Thanks again. I had originally intended on cutting him. There was too much overlap in the earlier drafts with Tiamat. However, I liked the story of a friendship between Tharizdun, Pelor, and Ioun and the Far Realms. Ioun was also not fitting (to my liking at least) with other divine groupings, so I brought in Tharizdun and Lendor (from Greyhawk) to help flesh her out. Then as I was brainstorming, Tharizdun basically became a god of depression and mental illness with the Abyss being a manifestation of that self-destructive imbalance. </p><p></p><p>I definitely need one too, certainly an electronic copy and not drafts of family trees sketched on scratch paper. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>I will get to work on that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 7640536, member: 5142"] I operated more from the general opinion that if I were to steal a god, do it from Greyhawk. I definitely considered replacing Bane with Hextor, since (1) he had a "silly name" and (2) he is an odd-god-out of the Dawn War bunch from Forgotten Realms. But I think having Hextor without Heironeous would have been slightly off-putting, and Bahamut already occupies that niche. As it turns out, Bane does have a "real name" according to 4e lore: Achra. Thanks. She's still "the Raven Queen," but the Raven Queen happens to also be an aspect of a less mustache-twirling Lloth. But given the harshness of the Underdark, its denizens have a similarly darker, fatalistic slant on her teachings, similar to the shadar-kai. I will also say that I'm not the biggest fan of the direction that Mearls took her in 5e. That said, I believe in the Nentir Vale lore, the Raven Queen did take Lloth's domain of 'fate' so there was definitely a precedent. So your idea of having the Raven Queen replace Lloth also works. I would love to hear more about your take on the Nentir Vale. IMHO, the Nentir Vale was probably one of the most underrated things that came out of 4e. Though I am also a huge fan of Chris Perkins's nautical take on the PoL setting: Iomandra. Thanks again. I had originally intended on cutting him. There was too much overlap in the earlier drafts with Tiamat. However, I liked the story of a friendship between Tharizdun, Pelor, and Ioun and the Far Realms. Ioun was also not fitting (to my liking at least) with other divine groupings, so I brought in Tharizdun and Lendor (from Greyhawk) to help flesh her out. Then as I was brainstorming, Tharizdun basically became a god of depression and mental illness with the Abyss being a manifestation of that self-destructive imbalance. I definitely need one too, certainly an electronic copy and not drafts of family trees sketched on scratch paper. ;) I will get to work on that. [/QUOTE]
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