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<blockquote data-quote="Robtheman" data-source="post: 5600285" data-attributes="member: 89625"><p>To the original poster:</p><p></p><p>I agree with your position, the fact that your assailant was misinformed, and that he is an uptight prig. You may consider these issues as well. I'm not not trolling you - rather offering a perspective on why you seem to have royally pissed that guy off and, by implication in your post title, other players at the table.</p><p></p><p>Your original post was titled "my-brawler-fighter-and-how-fellow-players-complain." Ths implies that more than a single person was upset with your behavior. Based on the information you've provided only one person complained. Is that accurate or were there other players annoyed with your choice at the time? You were careful to frame yourself as a victim without explaining how you might have been disrupting the game. Certainly you were not wrong about the rules, however we learned from the immortal Lebowski that you can be right and still be an butt. I'm not calling you one, merely asking you if you were frustrating other people with the methods you used to argue your points and or the timing. Some things can wait until after the game.</p><p></p><p>The subtext of his longer e-mail (quoted in your second post) is that a serious and detailed world was being described and what he viewed as shenanigans interfered with that. I have no clue if that was the case but I suspect that is the personality of the other player coloring his perspective. Clearly he likes serious games and values recreation of reality in his game. Not my cup of tea, nor many of those on enworld.</p><p></p><p>That said, you're description of your actions (chuckling happilly that you could mark from range and arguing a point at the table that led to a book reference) would interrupt the flow of that type of encounter. Too much of that might annoy less uptight players as well. Is it possible you do other things that do qualify as cheesy? If so, you might have set yourself up for this. The story of the boy who cried wolf comes to mind.</p><p></p><p>If you want to maintain a positive relationship with these players you might need to bite your tongue from time to time. Consider why the other player is getting so upset. You might even ask him to talk briefly about it. Don't talk. Just listen. You might reach a middle ground and at the very least you'd know how to avoid pissing him off, if that matters to you. I can assure you that quoting a post on EnWorld will do nothing to improve your relationship with the other gamers, especially if they see themselves quoted on a popular forum. Asking for "expert" community support is awefully similar to rules lawyering. At the end of the day the only opinions that matter are those held by the players and GM at your table. </p><p></p><p>Good luck and hopefully you can have fun with your character and this group. For what it's worth I absolutely love brawlers!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Robtheman, post: 5600285, member: 89625"] To the original poster: I agree with your position, the fact that your assailant was misinformed, and that he is an uptight prig. You may consider these issues as well. I'm not not trolling you - rather offering a perspective on why you seem to have royally pissed that guy off and, by implication in your post title, other players at the table. Your original post was titled "my-brawler-fighter-and-how-fellow-players-complain." Ths implies that more than a single person was upset with your behavior. Based on the information you've provided only one person complained. Is that accurate or were there other players annoyed with your choice at the time? You were careful to frame yourself as a victim without explaining how you might have been disrupting the game. Certainly you were not wrong about the rules, however we learned from the immortal Lebowski that you can be right and still be an butt. I'm not calling you one, merely asking you if you were frustrating other people with the methods you used to argue your points and or the timing. Some things can wait until after the game. The subtext of his longer e-mail (quoted in your second post) is that a serious and detailed world was being described and what he viewed as shenanigans interfered with that. I have no clue if that was the case but I suspect that is the personality of the other player coloring his perspective. Clearly he likes serious games and values recreation of reality in his game. Not my cup of tea, nor many of those on enworld. That said, you're description of your actions (chuckling happilly that you could mark from range and arguing a point at the table that led to a book reference) would interrupt the flow of that type of encounter. Too much of that might annoy less uptight players as well. Is it possible you do other things that do qualify as cheesy? If so, you might have set yourself up for this. The story of the boy who cried wolf comes to mind. If you want to maintain a positive relationship with these players you might need to bite your tongue from time to time. Consider why the other player is getting so upset. You might even ask him to talk briefly about it. Don't talk. Just listen. You might reach a middle ground and at the very least you'd know how to avoid pissing him off, if that matters to you. I can assure you that quoting a post on EnWorld will do nothing to improve your relationship with the other gamers, especially if they see themselves quoted on a popular forum. Asking for "expert" community support is awefully similar to rules lawyering. At the end of the day the only opinions that matter are those held by the players and GM at your table. Good luck and hopefully you can have fun with your character and this group. For what it's worth I absolutely love brawlers! [/QUOTE]
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