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<blockquote data-quote="Agemegos" data-source="post: 1566740" data-attributes="member: 18377"><p>It seems to me that his condemnation is still in doubt, and it is perhaps improper to speak of the sentence before the verdict lest it sway the jurors in their verdict. But since urgency is so pressing, I will speak.</p><p></p><p>The question of a sentence is a difficult question, seeing that what is right for a Christian in Durham in the Year of Our Lord one thousand and ninety-two, in a world where there is no god but God, and God is just and merciful, is not necessarily right for a paladin in a strange land where the triumph of Good is not assured. But I will answer as best I can.</p><p></p><p><strong>If the paladin does not repent</strong> then I submit that he reveals himself unfit to wield the powers of God, or in his case Tyr: Law and Goodness however administered. He cannot be trusted with them, for there is a very grave danger that he will misuse them, and bring his god, his lord, the law, paladins, and goodness into further disrepute. So if he does not sincerely repent he ought to be stripped of his paladinhood, as having become no longer Lawful.</p><p></p><p>This is not really a punishment, of course, since the power always belongs not to us but to God. It is but the authority of an office, which we surrender when we cease to do the office.</p><p></p><p><strong>If the paladin repents</strong> then I submit that no further action is necessary. Through the saving grace of God this paladin managed to escape the grievous sin that might have resulted from such an intemperate act. His act was not willfully evil in its motivation, and was not grossly evil in its consequences. I would rule it a grave, but not a gross, violation of the Code.</p><p></p><p>Mind you, if he does repent then naturally he will seek to make a restitution.</p><p></p><p>He must declare his killing if he has not done so already, and abide by the consequences. I am not sure how these things are handled in his land: in mine he ought to pay the wergild of the man he killed for a manslaughter (these days it goes to the King); in other lands I have been in the procedure would be for him to go to the king's court, plead his case frankly, and abide by the verdict. If it should happen that the court of competent jurisdiction is harsh or unjust, he will submit himself nevertheless and pray that his god will deliver him from maiming or death.</p><p></p><p>He will also naturally make a restitution to the Law, do something to repair the damage to its reputation that he has wrought. I would suggest that he swear himself to the service of a court of high justice either for a term of years or until he has brought just acquittal for three men wrongly accused.</p><p></p><p>All this, besides the penance that his confessor sets for him.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In any case, I consider it otiose to suspend some of his powers but not all of them, or to suspend them conditionally or temporarily. Either he is fit to trust with the power of God, in which case the more he has the better, for he may need them in his time of penance for the sake of others. Or else he is not fit to trust with it, in which case it is dangerous to entrust him with any.</p><p></p><p>[spoiler]In short, if the character immediately starts to mend his mistakes, no action. Otherwise, he ought to be ruled no longer Lawful Good, and consequently unqualified to be a paladin.[/spoiler]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Agemegos, post: 1566740, member: 18377"] It seems to me that his condemnation is still in doubt, and it is perhaps improper to speak of the sentence before the verdict lest it sway the jurors in their verdict. But since urgency is so pressing, I will speak. The question of a sentence is a difficult question, seeing that what is right for a Christian in Durham in the Year of Our Lord one thousand and ninety-two, in a world where there is no god but God, and God is just and merciful, is not necessarily right for a paladin in a strange land where the triumph of Good is not assured. But I will answer as best I can. [b]If the paladin does not repent[/b] then I submit that he reveals himself unfit to wield the powers of God, or in his case Tyr: Law and Goodness however administered. He cannot be trusted with them, for there is a very grave danger that he will misuse them, and bring his god, his lord, the law, paladins, and goodness into further disrepute. So if he does not sincerely repent he ought to be stripped of his paladinhood, as having become no longer Lawful. This is not really a punishment, of course, since the power always belongs not to us but to God. It is but the authority of an office, which we surrender when we cease to do the office. [b]If the paladin repents[/b] then I submit that no further action is necessary. Through the saving grace of God this paladin managed to escape the grievous sin that might have resulted from such an intemperate act. His act was not willfully evil in its motivation, and was not grossly evil in its consequences. I would rule it a grave, but not a gross, violation of the Code. Mind you, if he does repent then naturally he will seek to make a restitution. He must declare his killing if he has not done so already, and abide by the consequences. I am not sure how these things are handled in his land: in mine he ought to pay the wergild of the man he killed for a manslaughter (these days it goes to the King); in other lands I have been in the procedure would be for him to go to the king's court, plead his case frankly, and abide by the verdict. If it should happen that the court of competent jurisdiction is harsh or unjust, he will submit himself nevertheless and pray that his god will deliver him from maiming or death. He will also naturally make a restitution to the Law, do something to repair the damage to its reputation that he has wrought. I would suggest that he swear himself to the service of a court of high justice either for a term of years or until he has brought just acquittal for three men wrongly accused. All this, besides the penance that his confessor sets for him. In any case, I consider it otiose to suspend some of his powers but not all of them, or to suspend them conditionally or temporarily. Either he is fit to trust with the power of God, in which case the more he has the better, for he may need them in his time of penance for the sake of others. Or else he is not fit to trust with it, in which case it is dangerous to entrust him with any. [spoiler]In short, if the character immediately starts to mend his mistakes, no action. Otherwise, he ought to be ruled no longer Lawful Good, and consequently unqualified to be a paladin.[/spoiler] [/QUOTE]
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