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My Paladin killed a child molester (and now my DM wants to take away my powers!)
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<blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 1564884" data-attributes="member: 2167"><p>Why don’t we look at the definition of Honor then. Too many people are confusing Chivalry and other Codes of Fair Play with “Honor”. Having honor is having a sense of what is right, that which gives respect, dignity and courage. I think the Paladin fell far within the bounds of acting with Honor. No person who is "good" would have lost respect for the Paladin's actions. He would be applauded for saving the child and riddig the world of an evil. </p><p></p><p>Even in a Chivalric code a criminal (or evil-doer) falls outside the boundaries of fair play and honor. Even amongst the Samurai, one of the strictest codes of Honor – a criminal is deserving of no Honor, only punishment.</p><p></p><p>Per Websters:</p><p></p><p>Noun</p><p>1) Esteem due or paid to worth; high estimation; respect; consideration; reverence; veneration; manifestation of respect or reverence.</p><p>2) That which rightfully attracts esteem, respect, or consideration; self-respect; dignity; courage; fidelity; especially, excellence of character; high moral worth; virtue; nobleness.</p><p>3) Purity; chastity; - a term applied mostly to women, but becoming uncommon in usage.</p><p>4) A nice sense of what is right, just, and true, with course of life correspondent thereto; strict conformity to the duty imposed by conscience, position, or privilege; integrity; uprightness; trustworthness.</p><p>5) That to which esteem or consideration is paid; distinguished position; high rank.</p><p>6) Fame; reputation; credit.</p><p>7) A token of esteem paid to worth; a mark of respect; a ceremonial sign of consideration; as, he wore an honor on his breast; military honors; civil honors.</p><p>8) A cause of respect and fame; a glory; an excellency; an ornament; as, he is an honor to his nation.</p><p>9) A title applied to the holders of certain honorable civil offices, or to persons of rank; as, His Honor the Mayor. See Note under Honorable.</p><p>10) (Feud. Law) A seigniory or lordship held of the king, on which other lordships and manors depended.</p><p>11) Academic or university prizes or distinctions; as, honors in classics.</p><p>12) (Whist) The ace, king, queen, and jack of trumps. The ten and nine are sometimes called Dutch honors.</p><p></p><p>Verb</p><p>1) To regard or treat with honor, esteem, or respect; to revere; to treat with deference and submission; when used of the Supreme Being, to reverence; to adore; to worship.</p><p>2) To dignify; to raise to distinction or notice; to bestow honor upon; to elevate in rank or station; to ennoble; to exalt; to glorify; hence, to do something to honor; to treat in a complimentary manner or with civility.</p><p></p><p>Usage:</p><p>Affair of honor: a dispute to be decided by a duel, or the duel itself.</p><p></p><p>Court of honor: a court or tribunal to investigate and decide questions relating to points of honor; as a court of chivalry, or a military court to investigate acts or omissions which are unofficerlike or ungentlemanly in their nature.</p><p></p><p>Debt of honor: a debt contracted by a verbal promise, or by betting or gambling, considered more binding than if recoverable by law.</p><p></p><p>Honor bright!: (Feudal Law) one held in an honor or seignory.</p><p></p><p>Honors of war: (Mil.) distinctions granted to a vanquished enemy, as of marching out from a camp or town armed, and with colors flying.</p><p></p><p>Law of honor: certain rules by which social intercourse is regulated among persons of fashion, and which are founded on a regard to reputation.</p><p></p><p>Maid of honor: </p><p>a - a lady of rank, whose duty it is to attend the queen when she appears in public. </p><p>b - the bride's principle attendant at a wedding, if unmarried. If married, she is referred to as the matron of honor.</p><p></p><p>On one's honor: on the pledge of one's honor; as, the members of the House of Lords in Great Britain, are not under oath, but give their statements or verdicts on their honor.</p><p></p><p>Point of honor: a scruple or nice distinction in matters affecting one's honor; as, he raised a point of honor.</p><p></p><p>To do the honors: to bestow honor, as on a guest; to act as host or hostess at an entertainment.</p><p></p><p>To do one honor: to confer distinction upon one.</p><p></p><p>To have the honor: to have the privilege or distinction.</p><p></p><p>Word of honor: an engagement confirmed by a pledge of honor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khaalis, post: 1564884, member: 2167"] Why don’t we look at the definition of Honor then. Too many people are confusing Chivalry and other Codes of Fair Play with “Honor”. Having honor is having a sense of what is right, that which gives respect, dignity and courage. I think the Paladin fell far within the bounds of acting with Honor. No person who is "good" would have lost respect for the Paladin's actions. He would be applauded for saving the child and riddig the world of an evil. Even in a Chivalric code a criminal (or evil-doer) falls outside the boundaries of fair play and honor. Even amongst the Samurai, one of the strictest codes of Honor – a criminal is deserving of no Honor, only punishment. Per Websters: Noun 1) Esteem due or paid to worth; high estimation; respect; consideration; reverence; veneration; manifestation of respect or reverence. 2) That which rightfully attracts esteem, respect, or consideration; self-respect; dignity; courage; fidelity; especially, excellence of character; high moral worth; virtue; nobleness. 3) Purity; chastity; - a term applied mostly to women, but becoming uncommon in usage. 4) A nice sense of what is right, just, and true, with course of life correspondent thereto; strict conformity to the duty imposed by conscience, position, or privilege; integrity; uprightness; trustworthness. 5) That to which esteem or consideration is paid; distinguished position; high rank. 6) Fame; reputation; credit. 7) A token of esteem paid to worth; a mark of respect; a ceremonial sign of consideration; as, he wore an honor on his breast; military honors; civil honors. 8) A cause of respect and fame; a glory; an excellency; an ornament; as, he is an honor to his nation. 9) A title applied to the holders of certain honorable civil offices, or to persons of rank; as, His Honor the Mayor. See Note under Honorable. 10) (Feud. Law) A seigniory or lordship held of the king, on which other lordships and manors depended. 11) Academic or university prizes or distinctions; as, honors in classics. 12) (Whist) The ace, king, queen, and jack of trumps. The ten and nine are sometimes called Dutch honors. Verb 1) To regard or treat with honor, esteem, or respect; to revere; to treat with deference and submission; when used of the Supreme Being, to reverence; to adore; to worship. 2) To dignify; to raise to distinction or notice; to bestow honor upon; to elevate in rank or station; to ennoble; to exalt; to glorify; hence, to do something to honor; to treat in a complimentary manner or with civility. Usage: Affair of honor: a dispute to be decided by a duel, or the duel itself. Court of honor: a court or tribunal to investigate and decide questions relating to points of honor; as a court of chivalry, or a military court to investigate acts or omissions which are unofficerlike or ungentlemanly in their nature. Debt of honor: a debt contracted by a verbal promise, or by betting or gambling, considered more binding than if recoverable by law. Honor bright!: (Feudal Law) one held in an honor or seignory. Honors of war: (Mil.) distinctions granted to a vanquished enemy, as of marching out from a camp or town armed, and with colors flying. Law of honor: certain rules by which social intercourse is regulated among persons of fashion, and which are founded on a regard to reputation. Maid of honor: a - a lady of rank, whose duty it is to attend the queen when she appears in public. b - the bride's principle attendant at a wedding, if unmarried. If married, she is referred to as the matron of honor. On one's honor: on the pledge of one's honor; as, the members of the House of Lords in Great Britain, are not under oath, but give their statements or verdicts on their honor. Point of honor: a scruple or nice distinction in matters affecting one's honor; as, he raised a point of honor. To do the honors: to bestow honor, as on a guest; to act as host or hostess at an entertainment. To do one honor: to confer distinction upon one. To have the honor: to have the privilege or distinction. Word of honor: an engagement confirmed by a pledge of honor. [/QUOTE]
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