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My Paladin killed a child molester (and now my DM wants to take away my powers!)
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<blockquote data-quote="dargoth3" data-source="post: 1565266" data-attributes="member: 13867"><p>I wouldnt have minded a bit more info specficly what god the PAladin followers and in which the town the event occured (The later effects whether it would have been worth while bringing him in and handing the sicko over to the authorities)</p><p></p><p>As for the scenario</p><p></p><p>Ok things to consider </p><p></p><p>Did the Paladin know that sicko was responsiable for the girls state?</p><p></p><p>Yes the Child molester practically confessed "Now let's teach you another lesson, missy." Therefore the paladin knew he would be slaying a evil and guilty person</p><p></p><p>Was the girl potentially in danger if the Paladin issued a challenge? Ie could the sicko have taken the girl hostage if a warning had been issued? Possably, I think its quite likely that the Sicko would have threatened the girls life in order to escape justice</p><p></p><p>So what was the result of the Paladins actions.</p><p></p><p>He stopped a crime from taking place </p><p></p><p>He prevented the Sicko from harming the girl furthur</p><p></p><p></p><p>As for stripping the Paladins powers.</p><p></p><p>Alignments a bad arguement in this case as the Paladins powers are ultimatly granted by a god not an alignment.</p><p></p><p>So the question is in the eyes of the paladins god did he comit a cardinal sin by attacking the sicko from behind</p><p></p><p>My view</p><p></p><p>Depending on your gods alignment</p><p></p><p>Only gods with 3 alignments can have Paladins (and Sune)</p><p></p><p>NG: A NG god would have had nothing bad to say about your Paladins act as they are only concerned about good (they would ignore the unlawfulness)</p><p></p><p>LG: A LG would be offended by the attack from behind but they are also concerned about good in effect the 2 things even out, a LG god would not reward your paladin nor would he punish him.</p><p></p><p>LN: If your Paladin follows a LN god then you might b in trouble, as a LN god is most concerned with the the Law and they would be unswayed by Good act of saving the girl, morality Good & evil isnt important only the LAw matters and in the eyes of a LN deity your Paladins actions where Unlawful so it might be justified in stripping the Paladins powers.</p><p></p><p>As you can see varied answers</p><p></p><p>Hopefully it will help</p><p></p><p>PS Ill just add that I didnt like what your DM did during the game </p><p></p><p>"My DM cautioned me, saying, "Attacking him from behind, with your BAB and STR bonus, you realize that you will probably kill him with one blow. The dude's a lowly commoner"</p><p></p><p>He should have never brought BAB and STR into the debate there game mechanics not tangiable things that your PC thinks about nor should he have told you that the Child Molestors a lowly commoner its infomation your Character doesnt have, for all he knows the sicko could be a Polymorphed Great Wyrm Red Dragon</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dargoth3, post: 1565266, member: 13867"] I wouldnt have minded a bit more info specficly what god the PAladin followers and in which the town the event occured (The later effects whether it would have been worth while bringing him in and handing the sicko over to the authorities) As for the scenario Ok things to consider Did the Paladin know that sicko was responsiable for the girls state? Yes the Child molester practically confessed "Now let's teach you another lesson, missy." Therefore the paladin knew he would be slaying a evil and guilty person Was the girl potentially in danger if the Paladin issued a challenge? Ie could the sicko have taken the girl hostage if a warning had been issued? Possably, I think its quite likely that the Sicko would have threatened the girls life in order to escape justice So what was the result of the Paladins actions. He stopped a crime from taking place He prevented the Sicko from harming the girl furthur As for stripping the Paladins powers. Alignments a bad arguement in this case as the Paladins powers are ultimatly granted by a god not an alignment. So the question is in the eyes of the paladins god did he comit a cardinal sin by attacking the sicko from behind My view Depending on your gods alignment Only gods with 3 alignments can have Paladins (and Sune) NG: A NG god would have had nothing bad to say about your Paladins act as they are only concerned about good (they would ignore the unlawfulness) LG: A LG would be offended by the attack from behind but they are also concerned about good in effect the 2 things even out, a LG god would not reward your paladin nor would he punish him. LN: If your Paladin follows a LN god then you might b in trouble, as a LN god is most concerned with the the Law and they would be unswayed by Good act of saving the girl, morality Good & evil isnt important only the LAw matters and in the eyes of a LN deity your Paladins actions where Unlawful so it might be justified in stripping the Paladins powers. As you can see varied answers Hopefully it will help PS Ill just add that I didnt like what your DM did during the game "My DM cautioned me, saying, "Attacking him from behind, with your BAB and STR bonus, you realize that you will probably kill him with one blow. The dude's a lowly commoner" He should have never brought BAB and STR into the debate there game mechanics not tangiable things that your PC thinks about nor should he have told you that the Child Molestors a lowly commoner its infomation your Character doesnt have, for all he knows the sicko could be a Polymorphed Great Wyrm Red Dragon [/QUOTE]
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