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My Paladin killed a child molester (and now my DM wants to take away my powers!)
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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 1571561" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>I did not state what was the best/worst legal outcome. I said "At best, your examples would have only been as effecting in protecting the girl from further immediate harm, which is not the same this as protecting her from further harm." </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Excepting that an argument has been put forward, repeatedly, that the risk in doing so is very high. The risk is that the watch does nothing, and the little girl is raped again. The risk is that forty brutish friends of the rapists beat the crud out of the paladin when he calls out, and the girl is raped again. Ad infinitum, ad nauseum.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're right. The paladin should round up the miscreant's friends and family, and interview them, before doing anything. Even before calling the Watch, because, as we know, turning in a miscreant may result in a feud. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly what other way would that be?</p><p></p><p>Your examples assume that calling the watch is as effective as killing the miscreant. That is simply not so. When the paladin calls the watch, all he can assume is that he has put off the potential for harm. Perhaps that is not the case, and the law is effective. Or perhaps the law does not carry out justice, and there is no legitimate authority in these parts. You ask the paladin to make an assumption, when all evidence points to the miscreant being unafraid of the law. I say that making that assumption in this case reduces the effectiveness of the paladin's action.</p><p></p><p>But, this argument has become pretty recursive by now, hasn't it?</p><p></p><p>We agree that the paladin should retain his paladinhood.</p><p></p><p>We agree that there <em>may have been</em> a better solution.</p><p></p><p>We do not agree that there <em>necessarily was</em> a better solution.</p><p></p><p>I can live with that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 1571561, member: 18280"] I did not state what was the best/worst legal outcome. I said "At best, your examples would have only been as effecting in protecting the girl from further immediate harm, which is not the same this as protecting her from further harm." Excepting that an argument has been put forward, repeatedly, that the risk in doing so is very high. The risk is that the watch does nothing, and the little girl is raped again. The risk is that forty brutish friends of the rapists beat the crud out of the paladin when he calls out, and the girl is raped again. Ad infinitum, ad nauseum. You're right. The paladin should round up the miscreant's friends and family, and interview them, before doing anything. Even before calling the Watch, because, as we know, turning in a miscreant may result in a feud. :uhoh: Exactly what other way would that be? Your examples assume that calling the watch is as effective as killing the miscreant. That is simply not so. When the paladin calls the watch, all he can assume is that he has put off the potential for harm. Perhaps that is not the case, and the law is effective. Or perhaps the law does not carry out justice, and there is no legitimate authority in these parts. You ask the paladin to make an assumption, when all evidence points to the miscreant being unafraid of the law. I say that making that assumption in this case reduces the effectiveness of the paladin's action. But, this argument has become pretty recursive by now, hasn't it? We agree that the paladin should retain his paladinhood. We agree that there [I]may have been[/I] a better solution. We do not agree that there [I]necessarily was[/I] a better solution. I can live with that. [/QUOTE]
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