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<blockquote data-quote="ParanoydStyle" data-source="post: 7778758" data-attributes="member: 6984451"><p>Um, actually that sounds quite a lot like how I handle divine magic in D&D. Generally speaking, Clerics and characters proficient in Arcana and/or Religion describe clerical spells as miracles, and never use the word "spells" to describe them. In 3.5 I had Elistan (D&D Joseph Smith) of Dragonlance fame experience a crisis of faith because he did not have a 5th level spell slot prepared to cast <em>raise dead</em> on an important character. He felt like Paladine had abandoned him: to me, this was a logical consequence of the character not knowing that he's a character in a game, let alone its rules.</p><p></p><p>But...I...digress...</p><p></p><p>St. Peter not having Dragon as a favored enemy just seems WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. St. Peter and the nameless Dragon (generally considered to be Satan) are both very interesting mythic figures for what they represent, and only become more interesting in a D&D context as Saints exist outside of monotheism and Dragons are more complicated and more nuanced than mere vessels of Satan.</p><p></p><p>I've never noticed how much of the St. George art depicts him as mounted on a destrier, so good call statting him as a cavalier, which I wouldn't have thought to do. Why no full plate for a champion of The Lord? Sure looks like Full Plate in those great medieval illustrations. The gaming set proficiency doesn't seem to fit but I know it's just one of the proficiencies that comes with that background. His lack of proficiency in Religion is just baffling, though. I'm also not sure I see what he's getting from having two levels of Paladin that two more levels of Cleric wouldn't be better than in any way (or alternatively I might just have statted him as a 15th or 16th level Paladin w/ however many Ranger levels I need to throw in to get Favored Enemy: Dragon). Final kibbutz/nitpick: I feel like Charisma 18 is pretty much a prerequisite for being CANONIZED.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, all in all, this is pretty much what a badass champion of the 'One True God of Christendom' should look like so GJ. I always find it interesting statting a divine D&D character whose deity is just our real world God/YHWH/Jesus Christ.</p><p></p><p>Final thoughts: this guy is a bad mother. You have him at CR10 but I can see him wiping out a 10th level party of four or five particularly if they have the misfortune of being primarily nongood. Is there any formula prescribed by 5E for getting from 16 character levels to CR10 or is that just a play-it-by-ear thing?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ParanoydStyle, post: 7778758, member: 6984451"] Um, actually that sounds quite a lot like how I handle divine magic in D&D. Generally speaking, Clerics and characters proficient in Arcana and/or Religion describe clerical spells as miracles, and never use the word "spells" to describe them. In 3.5 I had Elistan (D&D Joseph Smith) of Dragonlance fame experience a crisis of faith because he did not have a 5th level spell slot prepared to cast [I]raise dead[/I] on an important character. He felt like Paladine had abandoned him: to me, this was a logical consequence of the character not knowing that he's a character in a game, let alone its rules. But...I...digress... St. Peter not having Dragon as a favored enemy just seems WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. St. Peter and the nameless Dragon (generally considered to be Satan) are both very interesting mythic figures for what they represent, and only become more interesting in a D&D context as Saints exist outside of monotheism and Dragons are more complicated and more nuanced than mere vessels of Satan. I've never noticed how much of the St. George art depicts him as mounted on a destrier, so good call statting him as a cavalier, which I wouldn't have thought to do. Why no full plate for a champion of The Lord? Sure looks like Full Plate in those great medieval illustrations. The gaming set proficiency doesn't seem to fit but I know it's just one of the proficiencies that comes with that background. His lack of proficiency in Religion is just baffling, though. I'm also not sure I see what he's getting from having two levels of Paladin that two more levels of Cleric wouldn't be better than in any way (or alternatively I might just have statted him as a 15th or 16th level Paladin w/ however many Ranger levels I need to throw in to get Favored Enemy: Dragon). Final kibbutz/nitpick: I feel like Charisma 18 is pretty much a prerequisite for being CANONIZED. Anyway, all in all, this is pretty much what a badass champion of the 'One True God of Christendom' should look like so GJ. I always find it interesting statting a divine D&D character whose deity is just our real world God/YHWH/Jesus Christ. Final thoughts: this guy is a bad mother. You have him at CR10 but I can see him wiping out a 10th level party of four or five particularly if they have the misfortune of being primarily nongood. Is there any formula prescribed by 5E for getting from 16 character levels to CR10 or is that just a play-it-by-ear thing? [/QUOTE]
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