Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is LIVE! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Need help on bardic spell selction and feats
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Demoquin" data-source="post: 2505721" data-attributes="member: 27818"><p>thank you for the reply <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>I am using alterself as an alternative healing spell and like you said to infiltrate. I also get the stats and i think some of the abilities of the form, but not the mannerisms (which is what the disguise check is for). </p><p></p><p>About Silence, if i cast Silence, then everyone in that area cannot not hear my beautiful music or my speech. Will that be a problem? If not i think i will add that spell.</p><p></p><p>I dont think ill be taking a lot of bard lvls for Charm Monster so Charm Person is still in.</p><p></p><p>also with the pipes of sounding .. what would the DC be to realize that the 'sound' isnt from the source the person thinks it is? The perform check? I plan on using the Pipes for creating footsteps that will lead away from me (while i am hidden) then strike out when he turns and tries to discern the direction of the footsteps. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I picture my character as a lore seeker that doesnt really care for the performance that the average bard will go through. though i probally will as my evil side always liks to make a quick buck. Entertains audience with a magic show. Hips into the crowd, Use Hat of Disguise, Sleight of Hand a 'volunteer' then cast some Dancing Lights to my reappearance while saying "Tada!!!" I dont know something like that. </p><p></p><p>I am an orphan living in an inn that happens to be the headquarters for the Assassin's Guild. So i was looking for a 4th class to round him out. And assassin seemed to fit perfectly along with the SD lvls. I mean no one would ever suspect the bard <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /> </p><p></p><p>Is all 10 lvls of SD really worth it? I could scimp down to 7-9 if the lvl 3 bard spells are worth it or more asn for an exrtra d6 and 2DC on death attacks. 160ft is a lot of times i can Shadow jump compared to 40 at lvl 6 and 80 at lvl 8. My reflex will be 15 before the DEX bonus ... so i dont think i will need imp evasion. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Knowledge Planes. What kind of info can i get from it? As i see myself as a 'Shadow Walker', i think i should have some knowledge of what i am doing. Like the Plane of Shadows.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Demoquin, post: 2505721, member: 27818"] thank you for the reply :D I am using alterself as an alternative healing spell and like you said to infiltrate. I also get the stats and i think some of the abilities of the form, but not the mannerisms (which is what the disguise check is for). About Silence, if i cast Silence, then everyone in that area cannot not hear my beautiful music or my speech. Will that be a problem? If not i think i will add that spell. I dont think ill be taking a lot of bard lvls for Charm Monster so Charm Person is still in. also with the pipes of sounding .. what would the DC be to realize that the 'sound' isnt from the source the person thinks it is? The perform check? I plan on using the Pipes for creating footsteps that will lead away from me (while i am hidden) then strike out when he turns and tries to discern the direction of the footsteps. I picture my character as a lore seeker that doesnt really care for the performance that the average bard will go through. though i probally will as my evil side always liks to make a quick buck. Entertains audience with a magic show. Hips into the crowd, Use Hat of Disguise, Sleight of Hand a 'volunteer' then cast some Dancing Lights to my reappearance while saying "Tada!!!" I dont know something like that. I am an orphan living in an inn that happens to be the headquarters for the Assassin's Guild. So i was looking for a 4th class to round him out. And assassin seemed to fit perfectly along with the SD lvls. I mean no one would ever suspect the bard :] Is all 10 lvls of SD really worth it? I could scimp down to 7-9 if the lvl 3 bard spells are worth it or more asn for an exrtra d6 and 2DC on death attacks. 160ft is a lot of times i can Shadow jump compared to 40 at lvl 6 and 80 at lvl 8. My reflex will be 15 before the DEX bonus ... so i dont think i will need imp evasion. Knowledge Planes. What kind of info can i get from it? As i see myself as a 'Shadow Walker', i think i should have some knowledge of what i am doing. Like the Plane of Shadows. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Need help on bardic spell selction and feats
Top