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<blockquote data-quote="Negative Zero" data-source="post: 214873" data-attributes="member: 3794"><p>i agree that sleep has a very limited life span. even more so as you're effectively losing a level of usage, since the bard can't take it till 2nd lvl. and that's crucial when for most of a bards career, she'll only know 4 1st lvl spells.</p><p></p><p>Caliban, glitterdust IS a very useful spell, and, assuming she lives that long, she'll certainly consider it very favourably when she gets access to 2nd lvl spells <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Gromm, still considering the mage armour. after reading grease (for the first time), i have to agree that i can see it's usefullness. the things i'm worried about are the saving throws. with bards getting spells later than everyone else, their average DC will be lower than other casters, in relation to the opposition's saves.</p><p></p><p>Uller, i'm not really worried about having to contribute to combat much. we've got a half-orc paladin, dwarven battlerager, elven fighter, and two elven clerics of the god of archery or hunting, or some such. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>~NegZ</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Negative Zero, post: 214873, member: 3794"] i agree that sleep has a very limited life span. even more so as you're effectively losing a level of usage, since the bard can't take it till 2nd lvl. and that's crucial when for most of a bards career, she'll only know 4 1st lvl spells. Caliban, glitterdust IS a very useful spell, and, assuming she lives that long, she'll certainly consider it very favourably when she gets access to 2nd lvl spells :) Gromm, still considering the mage armour. after reading grease (for the first time), i have to agree that i can see it's usefullness. the things i'm worried about are the saving throws. with bards getting spells later than everyone else, their average DC will be lower than other casters, in relation to the opposition's saves. Uller, i'm not really worried about having to contribute to combat much. we've got a half-orc paladin, dwarven battlerager, elven fighter, and two elven clerics of the god of archery or hunting, or some such. :) ~NegZ [/QUOTE]
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