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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5807221" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>Paladin is boring but effective, basically. The spells help make up a bit for the dead levels, and the UM and UC probably added some good choices. That said, if you really want armor training, you could multiclass/dip. The <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/cavalier/archetypes/paizo---cavalier-archetypes/emissary" target="_blank">Emissary Cavalier</a> is quite nice for that. Mithral Fullplate is medium armor (you just need heavy armor proficiency to use it w/o penalty, which you'll have from Paladin), so you could start out in Breastplate and switch to mithral fullplate when you can afford it. Good 1 level dip. A nice DM might even let the mount stack with your paladin levels...maybe. Could also go to 2nd level if there's a cavalier Order ability you really like. Ronin/Knght Errant is pretty sweet (Slippery Mind and auto stabilize), Cockatrice is a major help if doing something with Dazzling Display.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nah, bashing just ramps up the damage a fair bit and is really helpful before you get Shield Master at level 6 (can probably only afford it on one shield before then, though). You don't need it. Considering TWF in PF is still widely considered inferior to 2H fighting, I don't see why doing a TWF build would be cheesy. But again, you could always just fight with a single heavy shield and 2H it. I really like the dual shield image/style, though, and late game it's cool to be able to split special property enhancements between them.</p><p></p><p>As for Paladin, I thought I gave you a good build idea, at least roughly. I'd probably do Half-Elf for Skill Focus (Intimidate) and get a trait to make Intimidate a class skill. Half-Orc gives an Intimidate bonus and has a racial trait that gives +2 intimidate instead of the usual +1, so that can work, too, though at level 10 the +6 from skill focus is much better.</p><p>Another option could be the Eldritch Heritage line to get some nice cha-based sorc bloodline powers. Most don't seem very good, though. Only one I REALLY like is Marid bloodline. You have to waste a feat (or be a Half-Elf) on Skill Focus (Knowledge planes) and then another feat on a completely worthless low level bloodline ability. But then at level 11 you get the payoff: Water's Fury, an at will area effect line attack that does modest damage and blinds on a failed reflex save. You're starting at level 5, so I don't know if enduring two worthless feats for 6 levels before it even pays off is worth it, probably not.</p><p>I also like <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/osyluth-guile-combat" target="_blank">Osyluth Guile</a>, if your Paladin can perhaps change the name to something less offensive to his sensibilities. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5807221, member: 35909"] Paladin is boring but effective, basically. The spells help make up a bit for the dead levels, and the UM and UC probably added some good choices. That said, if you really want armor training, you could multiclass/dip. The [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/cavalier/archetypes/paizo---cavalier-archetypes/emissary]Emissary Cavalier[/url] is quite nice for that. Mithral Fullplate is medium armor (you just need heavy armor proficiency to use it w/o penalty, which you'll have from Paladin), so you could start out in Breastplate and switch to mithral fullplate when you can afford it. Good 1 level dip. A nice DM might even let the mount stack with your paladin levels...maybe. Could also go to 2nd level if there's a cavalier Order ability you really like. Ronin/Knght Errant is pretty sweet (Slippery Mind and auto stabilize), Cockatrice is a major help if doing something with Dazzling Display. Nah, bashing just ramps up the damage a fair bit and is really helpful before you get Shield Master at level 6 (can probably only afford it on one shield before then, though). You don't need it. Considering TWF in PF is still widely considered inferior to 2H fighting, I don't see why doing a TWF build would be cheesy. But again, you could always just fight with a single heavy shield and 2H it. I really like the dual shield image/style, though, and late game it's cool to be able to split special property enhancements between them. As for Paladin, I thought I gave you a good build idea, at least roughly. I'd probably do Half-Elf for Skill Focus (Intimidate) and get a trait to make Intimidate a class skill. Half-Orc gives an Intimidate bonus and has a racial trait that gives +2 intimidate instead of the usual +1, so that can work, too, though at level 10 the +6 from skill focus is much better. Another option could be the Eldritch Heritage line to get some nice cha-based sorc bloodline powers. Most don't seem very good, though. Only one I REALLY like is Marid bloodline. You have to waste a feat (or be a Half-Elf) on Skill Focus (Knowledge planes) and then another feat on a completely worthless low level bloodline ability. But then at level 11 you get the payoff: Water's Fury, an at will area effect line attack that does modest damage and blinds on a failed reflex save. You're starting at level 5, so I don't know if enduring two worthless feats for 6 levels before it even pays off is worth it, probably not. I also like [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/osyluth-guile-combat]Osyluth Guile[/url], if your Paladin can perhaps change the name to something less offensive to his sensibilities. ;) [/QUOTE]
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