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<blockquote data-quote="mkill" data-source="post: 5205148" data-attributes="member: 55985"><p>@Ourchair: 4th edition character building works best if you do one thing and stick to it.</p><p></p><p>If you decide on Fighter Sword + Board, grab a big weapon and a shield, and pour all ressources in smacking things, and smacking things especially hard if they try anything you don't want (move away from you, shift around, attack your allies). Second, you invest in laughing into their faces when they try to attack you (thick armor, shield, stuff to shake off conditions).</p><p></p><p>Don't be distracted by all the other things you could do. Yes, you could use a rapier, yes, you could multiclass into one of 35 other classes, you could do this, you could do that. Don't. If it doesn't help with the stuff in paragraph 2, you don't need it. Let someone else in the party do it.</p><p></p><p>(If you wonder why all these options exist, then, they are for people who have too much time on their hands to check the synergy of all kinds of classes and powers to turn their characters up to 11. However, in your group 10 is loud enough.)</p><p></p><p>----------------------------</p><p></p><p>As for the swordmage, I think the complexities of D&D simply didn't click with her yet. Let the player who's best at explaining (and the most patient!!) help her understand all the options her PC has. I'm pretty sure she will enjoy the game more if she can feel that she's contributing in a meaningful way. It's just that she didn't grasp what her class is supposed to do yet. Next time she's in a combat, explain her Aegis to her. Let the DM have a monster trigger the ability a few times so she can understand how it works. Once she understands how useful it is to reduce the damage on the Ranger or Cleric, I'm sure she'll do it more often.</p><p></p><p>It's important that you give her that "whoa, I didn't know I could do that!" moment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mkill, post: 5205148, member: 55985"] @Ourchair: 4th edition character building works best if you do one thing and stick to it. If you decide on Fighter Sword + Board, grab a big weapon and a shield, and pour all ressources in smacking things, and smacking things especially hard if they try anything you don't want (move away from you, shift around, attack your allies). Second, you invest in laughing into their faces when they try to attack you (thick armor, shield, stuff to shake off conditions). Don't be distracted by all the other things you could do. Yes, you could use a rapier, yes, you could multiclass into one of 35 other classes, you could do this, you could do that. Don't. If it doesn't help with the stuff in paragraph 2, you don't need it. Let someone else in the party do it. (If you wonder why all these options exist, then, they are for people who have too much time on their hands to check the synergy of all kinds of classes and powers to turn their characters up to 11. However, in your group 10 is loud enough.) ---------------------------- As for the swordmage, I think the complexities of D&D simply didn't click with her yet. Let the player who's best at explaining (and the most patient!!) help her understand all the options her PC has. I'm pretty sure she will enjoy the game more if she can feel that she's contributing in a meaningful way. It's just that she didn't grasp what her class is supposed to do yet. Next time she's in a combat, explain her Aegis to her. Let the DM have a monster trigger the ability a few times so she can understand how it works. Once she understands how useful it is to reduce the damage on the Ranger or Cleric, I'm sure she'll do it more often. It's important that you give her that "whoa, I didn't know I could do that!" moment. [/QUOTE]
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