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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9288109" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Trying not to derail the thread but the Pinkerton thing is greatly misrepresented by many.</p><p></p><p>There are many divisions with Pinkertons. One is security - and that seems to be the guys people think were involved with this. Another is private investigators, and that is the actual department involved with this.</p><p></p><p>Security are the big tough intimidating scary guys.</p><p></p><p>Investigators are practically gamers themselves. They are mostly researchers.</p><p></p><p>Two investigators were sent into the field on this matter to talk to a guy who, as it turns out, accidentally received the wrong product that had not been released yet thinking something nefarious had happened.</p><p></p><p>Once the matter was clearly up, WOTC apologized to the guy and sent him a bunch of free stuff to make up for the misunderstanding.</p><p></p><p>In most of the world, this is not some major "they're evil!!!!!!" event. However because this is being viewed by fantasy roleplayers, somehow the extremely old (like 75 years plus) old reputation as all Pinkertons being union busting gun toting thugs was conflated with this event, like it's some movie. </p><p></p><p>This wasn't that. It's certainly something people can object to, I think it's fair to say WOTC should have checked their facts better, and Pinkertons were going in kinda blind on the real details. But it was not two huge thugs aiming guns at some guy to threaten him if he didn't do as they demanded. That's guys fantasizing about long ago movie stuff about the Pinkertons, not the reality of the type of guys who are investigators for them today. </p><p></p><p>But there is no convincing people otherwise. They want that image of the big bad Pinkertons busting in doors and there is no persuading them otherwise. Even after the guy who had it happen to him himself is pretty fine with it these days.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 9288109, member: 2525"] Trying not to derail the thread but the Pinkerton thing is greatly misrepresented by many. There are many divisions with Pinkertons. One is security - and that seems to be the guys people think were involved with this. Another is private investigators, and that is the actual department involved with this. Security are the big tough intimidating scary guys. Investigators are practically gamers themselves. They are mostly researchers. Two investigators were sent into the field on this matter to talk to a guy who, as it turns out, accidentally received the wrong product that had not been released yet thinking something nefarious had happened. Once the matter was clearly up, WOTC apologized to the guy and sent him a bunch of free stuff to make up for the misunderstanding. In most of the world, this is not some major "they're evil!!!!!!" event. However because this is being viewed by fantasy roleplayers, somehow the extremely old (like 75 years plus) old reputation as all Pinkertons being union busting gun toting thugs was conflated with this event, like it's some movie. This wasn't that. It's certainly something people can object to, I think it's fair to say WOTC should have checked their facts better, and Pinkertons were going in kinda blind on the real details. But it was not two huge thugs aiming guns at some guy to threaten him if he didn't do as they demanded. That's guys fantasizing about long ago movie stuff about the Pinkertons, not the reality of the type of guys who are investigators for them today. But there is no convincing people otherwise. They want that image of the big bad Pinkertons busting in doors and there is no persuading them otherwise. Even after the guy who had it happen to him himself is pretty fine with it these days. [/QUOTE]
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