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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 7034015" data-attributes="member: 20323"><p>Welcome to ENWorld <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I put emphasis on "in the confusion" because I <em>think</em> the angry crowd storming the wedding is just your DM device to pull off plot-level stuff in such a way that the PCs have no control over (murdering of King B, wounding of Baron, and kidnap of Baron's daughter). </p><p></p><p>Am I reading that right?</p><p></p><p>If that's your plan, I suggest either: </p><p></p><p>(a) Being transparent with your players about what you're planning and what they'd like their motivation to be for pursuing the kidnappers to the mines. Let them know you have a scene you want to frame (which they'll have no control over) and ask for their ideas of their PCs' involvement.</p><p></p><p>(b) Starting in the midst of the confusion, and very soon after starting play (read: minutes) reveal the murder/kidnapping, and have a quest-giver direct them to go after the kidnappers.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise, well...it sounds like you have experienced players who've played a campaign with you in the same setting before...and genre-savvy players smell out DM shenanigans from a mile away in my experience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 7034015, member: 20323"] Welcome to ENWorld :) I put emphasis on "in the confusion" because I [I]think[/I] the angry crowd storming the wedding is just your DM device to pull off plot-level stuff in such a way that the PCs have no control over (murdering of King B, wounding of Baron, and kidnap of Baron's daughter). Am I reading that right? If that's your plan, I suggest either: (a) Being transparent with your players about what you're planning and what they'd like their motivation to be for pursuing the kidnappers to the mines. Let them know you have a scene you want to frame (which they'll have no control over) and ask for their ideas of their PCs' involvement. (b) Starting in the midst of the confusion, and very soon after starting play (read: minutes) reveal the murder/kidnapping, and have a quest-giver direct them to go after the kidnappers. Otherwise, well...it sounds like you have experienced players who've played a campaign with you in the same setting before...and genre-savvy players smell out DM shenanigans from a mile away in my experience. [/QUOTE]
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