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<blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 3088630" data-attributes="member: 18363"><p>I'm just pointed out that your main reasoning seems to be 'they would have to buy another book just to find the race's favored class' while I cannot see them not including the class automatically in the book that has the race - in this case the PHB, as we are only focusing on the races from that book. </p><p></p><p>Pretend for a moment that <em>all</em> the classes were in the same book as the race in question. If all the classes were in the same book as this race, would you still feel so drawn towards the Rogue, or would you consider another class that might - in your opinion - better fit the descriptive text of the race and also your own personal view of the race?</p><p></p><p>That is basically what this poll is about. It is pointing out that at the time favored races were determined, there was only a few classes for consideration. Now, however, there is a small multitude. If you were determining which of these many classes to make the favored class of the race it is all but certain that later - when determining which classes would be in the book - that particular class would, per necessity, be included. So the point of whether or not the class is in the PHB is rather moot. This presumes that time has been reversed, that the PHB does not yet exist but is in the process of being written and the creators have more classes to draw upon for determining favored class for any particular race. </p><p></p><p>_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/</p><p></p><p>Now, for the Halfling - and also the Dwarven - race(s) the favored class is apparently well chosen, for it seems that most have the same vision in mind - or feel that the racial traits and flavor text agrees particularly well with the classes chosen for those races. The Figher class was overwhelmingly chosen Dwarf - the next class trailing 121 votes behind Fighter. While it seems that Rogue will similarly be well beyond most trailing runner-ups, there is a chance that some might not trail quite as far as <em>that</em> (121 votes). The Scout seems to have some slight pull, and I expect a few votes for Bard to eventually show up. But the Rogue class seems remarkably well suited for the Halfling in several ways, and this single class seems to be all but certain to take a notable lead over most other classes for this race. </p><p></p><p>But that is not true of all races. The Gnome and the Elf both had two or three classes with more votes than the class chosen by the designers as their 'favored class'. For the Elves the first choice was even a class in the original PHB - the Ranger. Indeed, except for the Duskblade all four primar voted favored classes were in the PHB. For the Gnome two of its four main voted favored classes were in the PHB. </p><p></p><p>So the PHB obviously seems to have quite a pull in the voting, and it seems many of the classes were well chosen, but it is similarly obvious that some mistakes were made - at least as far as the majority of players and DMs voting on these polls are concerned. The Bard was the Fourth choice for the Gnome (Artificer, Beguiler, and Wizard ahead of it). The Wizard was similarly the Fourth choice for the Elf (Ranger, Duskblade, and Sorcerer ahead of it). Neither, it seems was well chosen, although each was adequet as it seems they made it into the top four - the following runner-ups often trailing behind these leading four by 20-30 votes from the least of the top four.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nyeshet, post: 3088630, member: 18363"] I'm just pointed out that your main reasoning seems to be 'they would have to buy another book just to find the race's favored class' while I cannot see them not including the class automatically in the book that has the race - in this case the PHB, as we are only focusing on the races from that book. Pretend for a moment that [i]all[/i] the classes were in the same book as the race in question. If all the classes were in the same book as this race, would you still feel so drawn towards the Rogue, or would you consider another class that might - in your opinion - better fit the descriptive text of the race and also your own personal view of the race? That is basically what this poll is about. It is pointing out that at the time favored races were determined, there was only a few classes for consideration. Now, however, there is a small multitude. If you were determining which of these many classes to make the favored class of the race it is all but certain that later - when determining which classes would be in the book - that particular class would, per necessity, be included. So the point of whether or not the class is in the PHB is rather moot. This presumes that time has been reversed, that the PHB does not yet exist but is in the process of being written and the creators have more classes to draw upon for determining favored class for any particular race. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Now, for the Halfling - and also the Dwarven - race(s) the favored class is apparently well chosen, for it seems that most have the same vision in mind - or feel that the racial traits and flavor text agrees particularly well with the classes chosen for those races. The Figher class was overwhelmingly chosen Dwarf - the next class trailing 121 votes behind Fighter. While it seems that Rogue will similarly be well beyond most trailing runner-ups, there is a chance that some might not trail quite as far as [i]that[/i] (121 votes). The Scout seems to have some slight pull, and I expect a few votes for Bard to eventually show up. But the Rogue class seems remarkably well suited for the Halfling in several ways, and this single class seems to be all but certain to take a notable lead over most other classes for this race. But that is not true of all races. The Gnome and the Elf both had two or three classes with more votes than the class chosen by the designers as their 'favored class'. For the Elves the first choice was even a class in the original PHB - the Ranger. Indeed, except for the Duskblade all four primar voted favored classes were in the PHB. For the Gnome two of its four main voted favored classes were in the PHB. So the PHB obviously seems to have quite a pull in the voting, and it seems many of the classes were well chosen, but it is similarly obvious that some mistakes were made - at least as far as the majority of players and DMs voting on these polls are concerned. The Bard was the Fourth choice for the Gnome (Artificer, Beguiler, and Wizard ahead of it). The Wizard was similarly the Fourth choice for the Elf (Ranger, Duskblade, and Sorcerer ahead of it). Neither, it seems was well chosen, although each was adequet as it seems they made it into the top four - the following runner-ups often trailing behind these leading four by 20-30 votes from the least of the top four. [/QUOTE]
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