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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7700414" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>Because people are being overly critical and unrealistic. </p><p></p><p>I have ZERO problems tearing into WotC when they're at fault or doing something silly. And I've ripped into them quite a few times in the past. I was extremely critical about the OGL delays, the lack of updates to the DM Basic rules, the absence of a Basic document for <em>Out of the Abyss</em>, and other problems. And my reviews on my website can be quite hard on their products and their flaws. </p><p></p><p>But a lot of complaints just seem unfounded, spurious, or overlooking some details. I draw umbrage to those, and feel the need to reply. I don't mind people attacking WotC or complaining, but the complaints should be justified. </p><p></p><p><em>Dragon Magazine</em> is a good example, since so many people loved it, and it has fond memories (despite the fact, based on the numbers, likely only a tiny percentage subscribed). The memories of <em>Dragon</em> are tinged with nostalgia. </p><p>I grabbed a random issue from my shelf. A classic from the early '90s.</p><p>This issue is 120 pages.</p><p>Skipping pictures we have 1 page of letters, couple pages of editorial, 12 pages of content (in this case haunted locations, adventure hooks, three monsters, and urban locations) followed by 4 pages of reviews. 7 pages of a <em>Voyage of the Princess Ark</em> (that's mostly fluff with some assorted monster stats and what look like an NPC class) and 1 1/2 pages of <em>Sage Advice</em>, a page of novel previews, a page of RPG product previews, and a page and a half article on villains. Then four pages of Marvel-phile (Groot!!), as well as just under 3 pages of text finishing previous articles... A couple pages on villains by someone else. And then a Forums, three pages of responding. (This is super weird. I forgot these existed...) Three more pages of review, and a five pages of comics (usually 2, but Twilight Empire was running at the time.) Then like four pages of miniatures reviews. </p><p>That's 53 pages of content, under half the magazine. There was also several illustrations as well. But the majority of the magazine was either ads or features an ad. </p><p></p><p>And people were expected to pay the equivalent of $6 for that. </p><p></p><p>Now, of that content, the forums were replaced by, well, message board forums. Four of the five articles in this issue were advice and really the kind of stuff you'd see on a blog. Ditto the reviews. Dragon mirth is replaced by webcomics. And, really, the small monster article and Marvel-phille article also feel a little blog worthy, </p><p>The *only* content that hasn't been completely be replaced by other people's websites is the previews.</p><p></p><p>Which is the problem with a monster version of <em>Dragon</em>: it's literally taking articles and content people would otherwise give away and then paying for them. Which makes negative sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7700414, member: 37579"] Because people are being overly critical and unrealistic. I have ZERO problems tearing into WotC when they're at fault or doing something silly. And I've ripped into them quite a few times in the past. I was extremely critical about the OGL delays, the lack of updates to the DM Basic rules, the absence of a Basic document for [I]Out of the Abyss[/I], and other problems. And my reviews on my website can be quite hard on their products and their flaws. But a lot of complaints just seem unfounded, spurious, or overlooking some details. I draw umbrage to those, and feel the need to reply. I don't mind people attacking WotC or complaining, but the complaints should be justified. [I]Dragon Magazine[/I] is a good example, since so many people loved it, and it has fond memories (despite the fact, based on the numbers, likely only a tiny percentage subscribed). The memories of [I]Dragon[/I] are tinged with nostalgia. I grabbed a random issue from my shelf. A classic from the early '90s. This issue is 120 pages. Skipping pictures we have 1 page of letters, couple pages of editorial, 12 pages of content (in this case haunted locations, adventure hooks, three monsters, and urban locations) followed by 4 pages of reviews. 7 pages of a [I]Voyage of the Princess Ark[/I] (that's mostly fluff with some assorted monster stats and what look like an NPC class) and 1 1/2 pages of [I]Sage Advice[/I], a page of novel previews, a page of RPG product previews, and a page and a half article on villains. Then four pages of Marvel-phile (Groot!!), as well as just under 3 pages of text finishing previous articles... A couple pages on villains by someone else. And then a Forums, three pages of responding. (This is super weird. I forgot these existed...) Three more pages of review, and a five pages of comics (usually 2, but Twilight Empire was running at the time.) Then like four pages of miniatures reviews. That's 53 pages of content, under half the magazine. There was also several illustrations as well. But the majority of the magazine was either ads or features an ad. And people were expected to pay the equivalent of $6 for that. Now, of that content, the forums were replaced by, well, message board forums. Four of the five articles in this issue were advice and really the kind of stuff you'd see on a blog. Ditto the reviews. Dragon mirth is replaced by webcomics. And, really, the small monster article and Marvel-phille article also feel a little blog worthy, The *only* content that hasn't been completely be replaced by other people's websites is the previews. Which is the problem with a monster version of [I]Dragon[/I]: it's literally taking articles and content people would otherwise give away and then paying for them. Which makes negative sense. [/QUOTE]
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