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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5947394" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>Okay, I'm listening...</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Strong is good and quite sexy...independent is good and quite sexy...breaking stereotypes is very good.</p><p> </p><p>So let's take a closer look at this. The press release says you're looking for <em>"hot gamer chicks"</em> and <em>"girls"</em> that are <em>"vivacious</em>" and <em>"vixens"</em>...hmmm...I thought you wanted strong, independent <em>women</em>...?</p><p> </p><p>I'm not saying that strong, independent women can't also be <em>"vivacious"</em>, <em>"hot"</em>, or <em>"vixen"</em>-like...but those traits are far from requirements as to whether a women is considered strong and independent or not...nor are those requirements for a woman being considered <em>"gorgeous"</em>.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>As do I, and I think they are awesome. But how many of those strong, independent gaming women do you think are going to feel comfortable GM'ing or playing your role-playing game when it's filled with only <em><strong>your</strong></em> concept of strong, independent women? Especially since your definition is limited to <em>"hot"</em>, <em>"vivacious"</em>, and <em>"vixen"</em>-like...and as so many real women gamers don't fit <em>your</em> definition. In other words, only the <em>"pretty"</em> ones fit your definition...<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p> </p><p>That is unless you're only marketing to a very specific segment of gamers...namely young, single boys (and I intentionally used "boys")...?</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>A noble goal, except that it's not true. You're <em><strong>only</strong></em> interested in marketing your game to young, single boys. The relatively small amount of <em>"girls"</em> who you'll bring into the game directly through auditions, will be infinitesimal compared to the amount of young single boys you know you're directly marketing too...</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Great! But if breaking these stereotypes is one of your primary goals, then why aren't you also casting Men as well as Women, and one's that actually do break stereotypes, rather than just casting for stereotypical "hot gamer chicks"...? Where's the successful older Men and Women that play RPG's? Where's the Physicists, PR specialists, school teachers, soldiers, actors, musicians, lawyers, and others that also play RPG's...?</p><p> </p><p>Oh yeah, I forgot...these groups are useless in marketing a game to young single boys.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p> </p><p>You are completely contradicting yourself between your goals you just stated, and the language and manner in which you are marketing your game.</p><p> </p><p>You are not doing anything to break stereotypes, but instead are reinforcing them. In this light, your saying that this is one of your goals is a completely fallacious declaration.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Hosting fellow gamers and having a party sounds great...except that you feel you need to make it a "Ladies Night" in order to achieve your goals.</p><p> </p><p>"Ladies Nights" have one purpose and one purpose only...get lots of women to come in for free drinks in order to attract even more young single boys as paying customers.</p><p> </p><p>How is that having a party for fellow gamers...?<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p> </p><p>Either you're unable to see that your "Clarification" is simply a reinforcement of what people were already saying here...or your "Clarification" was nothing more than "Spin".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 5947394, member: 59506"] Okay, I'm listening... Strong is good and quite sexy...independent is good and quite sexy...breaking stereotypes is very good. So let's take a closer look at this. The press release says you're looking for [I]"hot gamer chicks"[/I] and [I]"girls"[/I] that are [I]"vivacious[/I]" and [I]"vixens"[/I]...hmmm...I thought you wanted strong, independent [I]women[/I]...? I'm not saying that strong, independent women can't also be [I]"vivacious"[/I], [I]"hot"[/I], or [I]"vixen"[/I]-like...but those traits are far from requirements as to whether a women is considered strong and independent or not...nor are those requirements for a woman being considered [I]"gorgeous"[/I]. As do I, and I think they are awesome. But how many of those strong, independent gaming women do you think are going to feel comfortable GM'ing or playing your role-playing game when it's filled with only [I][B]your[/B][/I] concept of strong, independent women? Especially since your definition is limited to [I]"hot"[/I], [I]"vivacious"[/I], and [I]"vixen"[/I]-like...and as so many real women gamers don't fit [I]your[/I] definition. In other words, only the [I]"pretty"[/I] ones fit your definition...:erm: That is unless you're only marketing to a very specific segment of gamers...namely young, single boys (and I intentionally used "boys")...? A noble goal, except that it's not true. You're [I][B]only[/B][/I] interested in marketing your game to young, single boys. The relatively small amount of [I]"girls"[/I] who you'll bring into the game directly through auditions, will be infinitesimal compared to the amount of young single boys you know you're directly marketing too... Great! But if breaking these stereotypes is one of your primary goals, then why aren't you also casting Men as well as Women, and one's that actually do break stereotypes, rather than just casting for stereotypical "hot gamer chicks"...? Where's the successful older Men and Women that play RPG's? Where's the Physicists, PR specialists, school teachers, soldiers, actors, musicians, lawyers, and others that also play RPG's...? Oh yeah, I forgot...these groups are useless in marketing a game to young single boys.:erm: You are completely contradicting yourself between your goals you just stated, and the language and manner in which you are marketing your game. You are not doing anything to break stereotypes, but instead are reinforcing them. In this light, your saying that this is one of your goals is a completely fallacious declaration. Hosting fellow gamers and having a party sounds great...except that you feel you need to make it a "Ladies Night" in order to achieve your goals. "Ladies Nights" have one purpose and one purpose only...get lots of women to come in for free drinks in order to attract even more young single boys as paying customers. How is that having a party for fellow gamers...?:erm: Either you're unable to see that your "Clarification" is simply a reinforcement of what people were already saying here...or your "Clarification" was nothing more than "Spin". [/QUOTE]
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