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<blockquote data-quote="TanithT" data-source="post: 5947574" data-attributes="member: 87695"><p>I agree completely. For the most part, sexual 'morality' is stupid, and hateful, and all about limiting the rights of consenting adults to do what they choose with their bodies. I think that is quite horrible.</p><p></p><p>Absolutely none of what I have been saying is about sexual morality. None of it. Zero. Seriously. I very much support sexual rights and respect for the choices of all consenting adults of all genders and orientations. I don't believe there is ever any justification for getting between two (or more) consenting adults and limiting their sexual behavior. Period. End of sentence. The people who try to do this are wrong and evil and what they do seriously hurts my LGBT friends. </p><p></p><p>I am pro porn and pro sex industry - if you own it, you have the absolute right to rent it, and anyone who says boo to that or decides it means you should be shamed or harassed or treated poorly is a cretin who does not respect other people's rights over their own bodies. I don't have an issue with women (or men) choosing to be models, or strippers or escorts or prostitutes for that matter. Their bodies, their choices, end of story.</p><p></p><p>My issue with the generalized pornification of female images in RPG source material, games and comic books is not a "sexual morality" issue in any way, shape or form. The issue is one of consent, and social privilege, and social exclusion. </p><p></p><p>Porn isn't the problem. Porn is good, porn is great, everyone should enjoy having it and making it in the flavor they like best. There are lots of places you can have porn - after all, isn't that what the Internet is for? The problem is that there are social consequences when you pornify mass market RPG source material in a way that excludes heterosexual women from being the consumers and primarily depicts them as the objects of consumption.</p><p></p><p>I don't actually care if that is your personal taste and you have a bunch of that in your porn stash. Please enjoy it there. But is it really too much to ask that it not be the default setting for female characters in my RPG source material? Especially when it makes them look stupid? The gratuitous eye candy doesn't usually add anything to the storyline, the characters, the world background or the campaign, and it has the potential to take a lot away.</p><p></p><p>Language that diminishes, trivializes or condescends to women can also take a lot away, and make women feel really uncomfortable about participating. So I'm hoping that FableStream will take the hint and become a better model for showing actual respect for the women who want to be involved in the hobby, or with their project.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TanithT, post: 5947574, member: 87695"] I agree completely. For the most part, sexual 'morality' is stupid, and hateful, and all about limiting the rights of consenting adults to do what they choose with their bodies. I think that is quite horrible. Absolutely none of what I have been saying is about sexual morality. None of it. Zero. Seriously. I very much support sexual rights and respect for the choices of all consenting adults of all genders and orientations. I don't believe there is ever any justification for getting between two (or more) consenting adults and limiting their sexual behavior. Period. End of sentence. The people who try to do this are wrong and evil and what they do seriously hurts my LGBT friends. I am pro porn and pro sex industry - if you own it, you have the absolute right to rent it, and anyone who says boo to that or decides it means you should be shamed or harassed or treated poorly is a cretin who does not respect other people's rights over their own bodies. I don't have an issue with women (or men) choosing to be models, or strippers or escorts or prostitutes for that matter. Their bodies, their choices, end of story. My issue with the generalized pornification of female images in RPG source material, games and comic books is not a "sexual morality" issue in any way, shape or form. The issue is one of consent, and social privilege, and social exclusion. Porn isn't the problem. Porn is good, porn is great, everyone should enjoy having it and making it in the flavor they like best. There are lots of places you can have porn - after all, isn't that what the Internet is for? The problem is that there are social consequences when you pornify mass market RPG source material in a way that excludes heterosexual women from being the consumers and primarily depicts them as the objects of consumption. I don't actually care if that is your personal taste and you have a bunch of that in your porn stash. Please enjoy it there. But is it really too much to ask that it not be the default setting for female characters in my RPG source material? Especially when it makes them look stupid? The gratuitous eye candy doesn't usually add anything to the storyline, the characters, the world background or the campaign, and it has the potential to take a lot away. Language that diminishes, trivializes or condescends to women can also take a lot away, and make women feel really uncomfortable about participating. So I'm hoping that FableStream will take the hint and become a better model for showing actual respect for the women who want to be involved in the hobby, or with their project. [/QUOTE]
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