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<blockquote data-quote="TanithT" data-source="post: 5949710" data-attributes="member: 87695"><p>How do you have a female protagonist in a gritty survival story who doesn't take any hits or hard knocks? You can't. If you want to tell that genre of story, your protagonist takes knocks. Doesn't matter if the protagonist is male, female, animal or alien. That could be Lassie getting torn up on his way to rescue Timmie from the well, and it would be the same story. Having a female protagonist who gets knocked around in the course of the story doesn't automatically equate to sexualization, or to anything but a survival story where the protagonist happens to be female.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except when it DOES get overtly sexual, the femaleness rather than the humanity of the protagonist is a hugely emphasized focus, and the camera lingers on those sequences and those body parts. Sexual violence is certainly gritty realism, but it can be problematic to center a game around or to have the camera dwell on lovingly and extensively. I just don't see any of that happening in this clip, however. </p><p></p><p>I don't personally agree with your statement about privilege here, because there is no way to tell a 'hard knocks' survival story without your protagonist taking a lot of them. An extension of what you are saying is that there shouldn't be female protagonists in this kind of story - women don't get to take punishment and survive and become heroes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Possibly. I didn't see her as 'a girl', I saw her as 'the protagonist of a hard knocks survival story' and she's at the beginning of that story. She's first level right now. I assume she gets more powerful as the game progresses. I'm okay with her starting at first level.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Excellent point. How far do we have to go in actually *excluding* women from being the heroes in certain kinds of stories, though, if we can't depict them getting hit?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TanithT, post: 5949710, member: 87695"] How do you have a female protagonist in a gritty survival story who doesn't take any hits or hard knocks? You can't. If you want to tell that genre of story, your protagonist takes knocks. Doesn't matter if the protagonist is male, female, animal or alien. That could be Lassie getting torn up on his way to rescue Timmie from the well, and it would be the same story. Having a female protagonist who gets knocked around in the course of the story doesn't automatically equate to sexualization, or to anything but a survival story where the protagonist happens to be female. Except when it DOES get overtly sexual, the femaleness rather than the humanity of the protagonist is a hugely emphasized focus, and the camera lingers on those sequences and those body parts. Sexual violence is certainly gritty realism, but it can be problematic to center a game around or to have the camera dwell on lovingly and extensively. I just don't see any of that happening in this clip, however. I don't personally agree with your statement about privilege here, because there is no way to tell a 'hard knocks' survival story without your protagonist taking a lot of them. An extension of what you are saying is that there shouldn't be female protagonists in this kind of story - women don't get to take punishment and survive and become heroes. Possibly. I didn't see her as 'a girl', I saw her as 'the protagonist of a hard knocks survival story' and she's at the beginning of that story. She's first level right now. I assume she gets more powerful as the game progresses. I'm okay with her starting at first level. Excellent point. How far do we have to go in actually *excluding* women from being the heroes in certain kinds of stories, though, if we can't depict them getting hit? [/QUOTE]
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