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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 9050891" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>I know some folks want to go all in with their pitchforks and torches, but I think it bear repeating again.</p><p></p><p>I've worked with enough domestic abuse victims over the years to see the clear red flags re: Leason. It's pretty textbook, actually.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Abuser acts all nice, friendly and complimentary to get in.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Abuser starts to take control. Minor things at first. Still lots of promises.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Abuser then begins to take all control. Things like a job, and housing. Friends. Niceness stops. Threats start.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Victim defends abuser. After all, they are a smart person, how could they ever let themselves get in this position in the first place? And the abuser was super nice before. Maybe they've had a bad day. They're under a lot of stress. A lot of things going badly for them. Yep, that's the reason.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Victim finds themself at the complete mercy and power of the abuser, realizes the abuse, but feels trapped. No way out. They don't dare speak out against them or they will face the wrath of the abuser. A person, by the way, who constantly reminds them of the power imbalance and how much the victim relies on them.</li> </ul><p></p><p>That is Justin and Ducks relationship to a T (at least publicly from what we've seen). I'm not saying that Duck has zero responsibility here, but ask yourself before saying he's just as bad. Do you blame the victims in domestic abuse situations for not leaving? Cuz that's what this is. Duck is 100% dependent on Justin. Job, housing, everything. Duck and Ernie are very different in this regard. Ernie isn't dependent on Justin at all, (with the exception of access to the house Ernie so desperately wants to be in). But Justin has very little actual control over Ernie, unlike Duck, who will be jobless and homeless at Justin's whim.</p><p></p><p>I'll admit my bias. Because I've worked with domestic abuse victims for years, and have very close ties to that subject myself, I get a little irritated when I hear people say or infer "if they don't like it, they can just leave." Those are phrases from people who have no idea what it's like to have someone have complete power and control over you. It's never that easy or simple.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 9050891, member: 15700"] I know some folks want to go all in with their pitchforks and torches, but I think it bear repeating again. I've worked with enough domestic abuse victims over the years to see the clear red flags re: Leason. It's pretty textbook, actually. [LIST] [*]Abuser acts all nice, friendly and complimentary to get in. [*]Abuser starts to take control. Minor things at first. Still lots of promises. [*]Abuser then begins to take all control. Things like a job, and housing. Friends. Niceness stops. Threats start. [*]Victim defends abuser. After all, they are a smart person, how could they ever let themselves get in this position in the first place? And the abuser was super nice before. Maybe they've had a bad day. They're under a lot of stress. A lot of things going badly for them. Yep, that's the reason. [*]Victim finds themself at the complete mercy and power of the abuser, realizes the abuse, but feels trapped. No way out. They don't dare speak out against them or they will face the wrath of the abuser. A person, by the way, who constantly reminds them of the power imbalance and how much the victim relies on them. [/LIST] That is Justin and Ducks relationship to a T (at least publicly from what we've seen). I'm not saying that Duck has zero responsibility here, but ask yourself before saying he's just as bad. Do you blame the victims in domestic abuse situations for not leaving? Cuz that's what this is. Duck is 100% dependent on Justin. Job, housing, everything. Duck and Ernie are very different in this regard. Ernie isn't dependent on Justin at all, (with the exception of access to the house Ernie so desperately wants to be in). But Justin has very little actual control over Ernie, unlike Duck, who will be jobless and homeless at Justin's whim. I'll admit my bias. Because I've worked with domestic abuse victims for years, and have very close ties to that subject myself, I get a little irritated when I hear people say or infer "if they don't like it, they can just leave." Those are phrases from people who have no idea what it's like to have someone have complete power and control over you. It's never that easy or simple. [/QUOTE]
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