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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 4649098" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I agree with the general sentiment that it would be no less accurate than what we have. Historical accuracy was never a huge goal, even for antiquity obsessed DM's like Gygax.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Generally speaking, 'Western Civilization' has been considered to mean 'everything West of Persia'. This is how it is taught if you take a survey in 'Western Civilization' - whether it is in literature, art, or history. Granted, within that definition, there is generally a bias in any Anglo academic tradition best described as, "The center of civilization has been continually moving Westward." So, if you take an Anglo survey of 'Western Civilization', you'll generally start the course in Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq) but soon move your interest to Judea and Greece (the spiritual and secular parents of Western tradition, respectively), and then move on to Rome, and then France and Germany, and finally end up in England and then maybe America. As the focus of the course moves Westward, you tend to lose touch with what is going on in the Eastern portion of the area called 'Western Civilization' except as it directly impacts the Western 'protagonist' culture. Thus, what goes on in Poland, the Balkans, and even the Ottoman empire - although quite important - will only get mentioned if it directly impacts where the attention has shifted. </p><p></p><p>So all the places you named with the exception of Persia (and sub-saharan Africa) would I think be considered Western. However, most of them would probably not be considered part of a core Western setting, but instead would typically get decorated onto that setting by supplements, much as a study of say Polan or the Portugese colonial/merchantile expansion into the far east or a study of Islam would be follow up on a general survey course.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 4649098, member: 4937"] I agree with the general sentiment that it would be no less accurate than what we have. Historical accuracy was never a huge goal, even for antiquity obsessed DM's like Gygax. Generally speaking, 'Western Civilization' has been considered to mean 'everything West of Persia'. This is how it is taught if you take a survey in 'Western Civilization' - whether it is in literature, art, or history. Granted, within that definition, there is generally a bias in any Anglo academic tradition best described as, "The center of civilization has been continually moving Westward." So, if you take an Anglo survey of 'Western Civilization', you'll generally start the course in Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq) but soon move your interest to Judea and Greece (the spiritual and secular parents of Western tradition, respectively), and then move on to Rome, and then France and Germany, and finally end up in England and then maybe America. As the focus of the course moves Westward, you tend to lose touch with what is going on in the Eastern portion of the area called 'Western Civilization' except as it directly impacts the Western 'protagonist' culture. Thus, what goes on in Poland, the Balkans, and even the Ottoman empire - although quite important - will only get mentioned if it directly impacts where the attention has shifted. So all the places you named with the exception of Persia (and sub-saharan Africa) would I think be considered Western. However, most of them would probably not be considered part of a core Western setting, but instead would typically get decorated onto that setting by supplements, much as a study of say Polan or the Portugese colonial/merchantile expansion into the far east or a study of Islam would be follow up on a general survey course. [/QUOTE]
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