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Of all the complaints about 3.x systems... do you people actually allow this stuff ?
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<blockquote data-quote="Nellisir" data-source="post: 5790095" data-attributes="member: 70"><p>I played an intentionally min-maxed human abjurer for a few levels, something like 12th-14th level. There was almost no disagreement that he was the most powerful character at the table, and in a (hypothetical) PC vs PC battle, could wipe the floor with the rest of the party. Only the cleric came close.</p><p></p><p>That said, he had a glaring achilles heel, which was his prep time. He had several defenses that could be raised simultaneously, but his initiative was never that great, and anyone getting to him early on had a good chance of screwing things up. Party tactics while I played him ran heavily towards the "give the wizard cover for the first few rounds, and then get the hell out of the way" variety. I never tried to steal anyone's thunder, and there were always enough monsters to go around. Everyone had fun.</p><p></p><p>The min-maxing definately had mins as well as maxs. Hit points were good, but my unspelled AC was terrible (or so I remember).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nellisir, post: 5790095, member: 70"] I played an intentionally min-maxed human abjurer for a few levels, something like 12th-14th level. There was almost no disagreement that he was the most powerful character at the table, and in a (hypothetical) PC vs PC battle, could wipe the floor with the rest of the party. Only the cleric came close. That said, he had a glaring achilles heel, which was his prep time. He had several defenses that could be raised simultaneously, but his initiative was never that great, and anyone getting to him early on had a good chance of screwing things up. Party tactics while I played him ran heavily towards the "give the wizard cover for the first few rounds, and then get the hell out of the way" variety. I never tried to steal anyone's thunder, and there were always enough monsters to go around. Everyone had fun. The min-maxing definately had mins as well as maxs. Hit points were good, but my unspelled AC was terrible (or so I remember). [/QUOTE]
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