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<blockquote data-quote="brehobit" data-source="post: 4572559" data-attributes="member: 12032"><p>I find them significant for story-telling purposes. The ability to throw "fireballs" around at-will seems pretty significant from a story viewpoint. Being able to do it only once makes the character seem more "normal" to me. And just removing the only controller from the game (wizard) isn't the best of all options from a playability standpoint (druid has the same problems). And removing heavy armors will really screw a fighter or paladin at 1st level.</p><p></p><p>Of course there are workarounds to the "scrubs" thing in 4e. But it requires effort. I had to bend 3e pretty hard to get what I wanted. The bending required of 4e is just a bit too much for me. I've spent a fair number of hours trying to figure out how to work it for my "main" world. And while I've gotten there, things seem a lot more magical and a lot less gritty. And I _still_ have significant balance issues among the classes. </p><p></p><p>4e is a fun game. It's my favorite at the moment. But as the original poster asked, I find it restricts stories (as do all systems).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brehobit, post: 4572559, member: 12032"] I find them significant for story-telling purposes. The ability to throw "fireballs" around at-will seems pretty significant from a story viewpoint. Being able to do it only once makes the character seem more "normal" to me. And just removing the only controller from the game (wizard) isn't the best of all options from a playability standpoint (druid has the same problems). And removing heavy armors will really screw a fighter or paladin at 1st level. Of course there are workarounds to the "scrubs" thing in 4e. But it requires effort. I had to bend 3e pretty hard to get what I wanted. The bending required of 4e is just a bit too much for me. I've spent a fair number of hours trying to figure out how to work it for my "main" world. And while I've gotten there, things seem a lot more magical and a lot less gritty. And I _still_ have significant balance issues among the classes. 4e is a fun game. It's my favorite at the moment. But as the original poster asked, I find it restricts stories (as do all systems). [/QUOTE]
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