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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7771772" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>It's a catch-22.</p><p></p><p>We have a bonus action rule that says you choose when to take your bonus action on your turn unless the timing is specified.</p><p></p><p>We have taking an attack action tied to making an attack.</p><p></p><p>We have a phantom indivisible rule.</p><p></p><p>But every specific case of sure you can do this in attacks that is explicit enough to matter is simply deemed and dismissed as an exception somehow proving the phantom menace of indivisible actions.</p><p></p><p>So, let's be clear, </p><p></p><p>If we drink the kool-aid on the phantom indivisible we **cannot** drop a weapon between attacks in an attack action to free a hand to draw another, right? Dropping a weapon is not an interaction. So it doesnt get in there. Without a rule saying we **can** drop a weapon inside an attack action, phantom indivisible applies, right?</p><p></p><p>If we drink the kool-aid on the phantom indivisible, we cannot drop concentration between attacks in an attack action, right? It says we can drop concentration anytime but does not give us the ability to intervene between attacks explicitly. </p><p></p><p>So, I could... "drop my concentration when our fighter moves towards the fog cloud" even on the fighter's turn without a ready (sage iirc confirmed concentration anytime drop was not limited to your turn) but if the fighter had teo attacks, spent one on a goblin, then moved to attack someone in the fog the drop concentration would count as breaking up the indivisible action so... no go.</p><p></p><p>Of course the phantom indivisible menace rule might have explicit wording that says "any time" means you can insert into the indivisible and that "choose when" does not allow that... but that would require actually reading that phantom indivisible rule. </p><p></p><p>It's impossible to argue with the shadow of the memory of a phantom rule that has always existed to some - even tho now the indivisible ruling is classified as unofficial by subsequent official responses.</p><p></p><p>Oh well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7771772, member: 6919838"] It's a catch-22. We have a bonus action rule that says you choose when to take your bonus action on your turn unless the timing is specified. We have taking an attack action tied to making an attack. We have a phantom indivisible rule. But every specific case of sure you can do this in attacks that is explicit enough to matter is simply deemed and dismissed as an exception somehow proving the phantom menace of indivisible actions. So, let's be clear, If we drink the kool-aid on the phantom indivisible we **cannot** drop a weapon between attacks in an attack action to free a hand to draw another, right? Dropping a weapon is not an interaction. So it doesnt get in there. Without a rule saying we **can** drop a weapon inside an attack action, phantom indivisible applies, right? If we drink the kool-aid on the phantom indivisible, we cannot drop concentration between attacks in an attack action, right? It says we can drop concentration anytime but does not give us the ability to intervene between attacks explicitly. So, I could... "drop my concentration when our fighter moves towards the fog cloud" even on the fighter's turn without a ready (sage iirc confirmed concentration anytime drop was not limited to your turn) but if the fighter had teo attacks, spent one on a goblin, then moved to attack someone in the fog the drop concentration would count as breaking up the indivisible action so... no go. Of course the phantom indivisible menace rule might have explicit wording that says "any time" means you can insert into the indivisible and that "choose when" does not allow that... but that would require actually reading that phantom indivisible rule. It's impossible to argue with the shadow of the memory of a phantom rule that has always existed to some - even tho now the indivisible ruling is classified as unofficial by subsequent official responses. Oh well. [/QUOTE]
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