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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 7772135" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>This just proves George Bernard Shaw's maxim, "those who can't, teach." The sentence you've written here is nonsense. The forecast doesn't <em>become</em> wrong when it rains. It was either right or wrong from the moment it was made. If using the past tense here bothers you, I suggest using the future perfect tense, "will have been", which actually makes sense. As a teacher of English, however, you should know that while a first conditional sentence usually uses the simple future in the consequence, other variations are also possible, including making a deduction about past time using the past tense, as in the example I posted.</p><p></p><p>This really highlights the problem of interpretation with treating conditional sentences as if the condition must always precede the consequence, when in truth, conditional sentences that express an implication, like the first bullet of Shield Master, state both the condition and the consequence in whatever grammatical tense is appropriate to them. In the case of Shield Master, they are both in the present tense, so both are true at the same time, i.e. "on your turn".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure how you got this idea, but none of my arguments have anything to do with nesting actions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 7772135, member: 6787503"] This just proves George Bernard Shaw's maxim, "those who can't, teach." The sentence you've written here is nonsense. The forecast doesn't [I]become[/I] wrong when it rains. It was either right or wrong from the moment it was made. If using the past tense here bothers you, I suggest using the future perfect tense, "will have been", which actually makes sense. As a teacher of English, however, you should know that while a first conditional sentence usually uses the simple future in the consequence, other variations are also possible, including making a deduction about past time using the past tense, as in the example I posted. This really highlights the problem of interpretation with treating conditional sentences as if the condition must always precede the consequence, when in truth, conditional sentences that express an implication, like the first bullet of Shield Master, state both the condition and the consequence in whatever grammatical tense is appropriate to them. In the case of Shield Master, they are both in the present tense, so both are true at the same time, i.e. "on your turn". I'm not sure how you got this idea, but none of my arguments have anything to do with nesting actions. [/QUOTE]
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