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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7772198" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>I think it's too difficult to say when actions end. Consider the following questions:</p><p></p><p>If you have extra attack and take the attack action and make one attack, when does your attack action end?</p><p>If you take the dodge action when does that action end?</p><p>If you take the disengage action when does that action end?</p><p>If you take the ready action when does that action end?</p><p></p><p>So then if actions are meant to be atomic units that can't be subdivided then are you capable of doing anything after you start taking them? And how come no one has asked about when they end before?</p><p></p><p>Further consider the movement rule:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Does that mean that once you disengage you literally can't move because your action doesn't finish till the end of the turn? </p><p></p><p>IMO, Crawford's ruling about you not having taken an action until it's finished was an even more egregious error than his previous ruling about taking the shield master shove before the attack action. It makes us have to think about when actions end and 5erules were never set up around the end of an action being an important event.</p><p></p><p><strong>IMO, if Crawford was right about not being able to do things during an action then the rules would more clearly specify when actions end.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7772198, member: 6795602"] I think it's too difficult to say when actions end. Consider the following questions: If you have extra attack and take the attack action and make one attack, when does your attack action end? If you take the dodge action when does that action end? If you take the disengage action when does that action end? If you take the ready action when does that action end? So then if actions are meant to be atomic units that can't be subdivided then are you capable of doing anything after you start taking them? And how come no one has asked about when they end before? Further consider the movement rule: Does that mean that once you disengage you literally can't move because your action doesn't finish till the end of the turn? IMO, Crawford's ruling about you not having taken an action until it's finished was an even more egregious error than his previous ruling about taking the shield master shove before the attack action. It makes us have to think about when actions end and 5erules were never set up around the end of an action being an important event. [B]IMO, if Crawford was right about not being able to do things during an action then the rules would more clearly specify when actions end.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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