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<blockquote data-quote="hastur_nz" data-source="post: 7419517" data-attributes="member: 40592"><p>In my experience (player and DM), it's about 50/50 in terms of having a Cleric in the party at any one time. I think that's fine - it should be a nice option, just like all the other classes; basically there are far too many classes to fit them all in, so no one should be so great it's always in, nor should any be so poor it's never used. Cleric has enough differentiation still, and basically it's still a Support type of class, so appeals best to people who want to help the rest of the group win, not people who want to win all by themselves.</p><p></p><p>Now 5e's not perfect, it it's close to well balanced in terms of the various classes, I've seen pretty much every single class played since 5e was published, and the players always have fun with their choices (except maybe the odd person who multi-classes) - I've even got a Ranger in my current group (the UA one, of course). I'd hate to go back to the old days where a Cleric was close to mandatory (e.g. try AD&D vs Undead without a cleric lol). Basically, IMO 4e did us all a favour, in terms of breaking the mould and saying yes everyone can keep themselves alive, to a certain degree, but some are just better than others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hastur_nz, post: 7419517, member: 40592"] In my experience (player and DM), it's about 50/50 in terms of having a Cleric in the party at any one time. I think that's fine - it should be a nice option, just like all the other classes; basically there are far too many classes to fit them all in, so no one should be so great it's always in, nor should any be so poor it's never used. Cleric has enough differentiation still, and basically it's still a Support type of class, so appeals best to people who want to help the rest of the group win, not people who want to win all by themselves. Now 5e's not perfect, it it's close to well balanced in terms of the various classes, I've seen pretty much every single class played since 5e was published, and the players always have fun with their choices (except maybe the odd person who multi-classes) - I've even got a Ranger in my current group (the UA one, of course). I'd hate to go back to the old days where a Cleric was close to mandatory (e.g. try AD&D vs Undead without a cleric lol). Basically, IMO 4e did us all a favour, in terms of breaking the mould and saying yes everyone can keep themselves alive, to a certain degree, but some are just better than others. [/QUOTE]
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