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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 5847853"><p>Yeah, but the attitude that you <em>should</em> get it is what's in question here and that isn't new in the slightest.</p><p></p><p>I think it's probably better to argue that entitlement issues are culture-wide rather than a result of a particular edition. I think you'll find that since 1980, entitlement issues have risen in all aspects of life, not just gaming. I don't think this is wholly an issue you can lay at the feet of 4e.</p><p></p><p>This also depends largely on your players. Regardless of edition there are always people who feel they're entitled to things, and there are people who don't. Hence a 4e game can have players who are fine with getting nothing, heck even happy about it. And a 1e game can also have players who think they should have X, Y and Z.</p><p></p><p>My players don't expect anything. Why? Because I'm up front with them and tell them not to. If they DO get something, they're happy because I usually take the effort to make it useful to someone in the party, and also because the alternative to 1 is ZERO. If your players are expecting something other than what you intend to give them, this is a communication issue, not an edition issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 5847853"] Yeah, but the attitude that you [I]should[/I] get it is what's in question here and that isn't new in the slightest. I think it's probably better to argue that entitlement issues are culture-wide rather than a result of a particular edition. I think you'll find that since 1980, entitlement issues have risen in all aspects of life, not just gaming. I don't think this is wholly an issue you can lay at the feet of 4e. This also depends largely on your players. Regardless of edition there are always people who feel they're entitled to things, and there are people who don't. Hence a 4e game can have players who are fine with getting nothing, heck even happy about it. And a 1e game can also have players who think they should have X, Y and Z. My players don't expect anything. Why? Because I'm up front with them and tell them not to. If they DO get something, they're happy because I usually take the effort to make it useful to someone in the party, and also because the alternative to 1 is ZERO. If your players are expecting something other than what you intend to give them, this is a communication issue, not an edition issue. [/QUOTE]
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