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<blockquote data-quote="Rabulias" data-source="post: 8845346" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>A minor point of interest in this packet, a few spells changed schools. Looks like they are trying to rebalance the spell distribution by taking some toys away from evocation? I don't know. Healing magic continues its confusing journey over the course of the game. Four more editions of D&D and curing magic can be assigned to every school of magic at least once. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite18" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL :ROFLMAO:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" /> I think 3.x had the best idea to make a specific subschool for healing, but even that was weird placing it under conjuration. And some spells (<em>earthquake, flaming sphere, reincarnate, shatter, stoneskin</em>) are going back to their AD&D roots.</p><p></p><p>Here is a quick table of the changed spells with their schools through D&D history.</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><strong>SPELL</strong></td><td><strong>AD&D 1</strong></td><td><strong>AD&D 2</strong></td><td><strong>D&D 3.0</strong></td><td><strong>D&D 3.5</strong></td><td><strong>D&D 5e</strong></td><td><strong>OneD&D</strong></td></tr><tr><td>Aura of Vitality</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Abjuration</td></tr><tr><td>Blindness</td><td>Abjuration</td><td>Illusion</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Necromancy</td><td>Necromancy</td><td>Transmutation</td></tr><tr><td>Deafness</td><td>Illusion</td><td>Illusion</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Necromancy</td><td>Necromancy</td><td>Transmutation</td></tr><tr><td>Contingency</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Abjuration</td></tr><tr><td>Cure Wounds</td><td>Necromancy</td><td>Necromancy</td><td>Conjuration (Healing)</td><td>Conjuration (Healing)</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Abjuration</td></tr><tr><td>Dancing Lights</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Illusion</td></tr><tr><td>Earthquake</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Transmutation</td></tr><tr><td>Flaming Sphere</td><td>Transmutation/Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Conjuration</td><td>Evocation</td></tr><tr><td>Glibness</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Enchantment</td></tr><tr><td>Hallow</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Abjuration</td></tr><tr><td>Heal</td><td>Necromancy</td><td>Necromancy</td><td>Conjuration (Healing)</td><td>Conjuration (Healing)</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Abjuration</td></tr><tr><td>Healing Word</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Abjuration</td></tr><tr><td>Mass Cure Wounds</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>Conjuration (Healing)</td><td>Conjuration (Healing)</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Abjuration</td></tr><tr><td>Mass Heal</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>Conjuration (Healing)</td><td>Conjuration (Healing)</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Abjuration</td></tr><tr><td>Mass Healing Word</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Abjuration</td></tr><tr><td>Power Word Heal</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Abjuration</td></tr><tr><td>Prayer of Healing</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Abjuration</td></tr><tr><td>Produce Flame</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Conjuration</td><td>Evocation</td></tr><tr><td>Reincarnate</td><td>Necromancy</td><td>Necromancy</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Necromancy</td></tr><tr><td>Sending</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Divination</td></tr><tr><td>Shatter</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Transmutation</td></tr><tr><td>Stoneskin</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Transmutation</td><td>Abjuration</td><td>Abjuration</td><td>Abjuration</td><td>Transmutation</td></tr><tr><td>Telepathy</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Divination</td></tr><tr><td>Thunderwave</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>Evocation</td><td>Transmutation</td></tr></table><p></p><p><strong>NOTES:</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I did not play 4th edition, so it is not listed here, but I gather from Googling that spell schools went away in 4th edition? Can someone familiar with 4e confirm?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Except for the Conjuration (Healing) subschool, I have listed schools in the table above as their 5e equivalents. AD&D 1st edition had necromantic (now necromancy), alteration (now transmutation), and illusion/phantasm (now illusion).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Blindness</em> and <em>deafness </em>were separate spells in AD&D 1st edition (with different schools)<em>, </em>so I have separated them here. They were combined into a single spell from AD&D 2nd edition onward.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">AD&D 1st edition allowed multi-school spells; <em>flaming sphere </em>was an alteration/evocation spell.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Heal</em> changed schools in this packet, but was not called out with an asterisk.</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rabulias, post: 8845346, member: 16651"] A minor point of interest in this packet, a few spells changed schools. Looks like they are trying to rebalance the spell distribution by taking some toys away from evocation? I don't know. Healing magic continues its confusing journey over the course of the game. Four more editions of D&D and curing magic can be assigned to every school of magic at least once. :ROFLMAO: I think 3.x had the best idea to make a specific subschool for healing, but even that was weird placing it under conjuration. And some spells ([I]earthquake, flaming sphere, reincarnate, shatter, stoneskin[/I]) are going back to their AD&D roots. Here is a quick table of the changed spells with their schools through D&D history. [TABLE] [TR] [TD][B]SPELL[/B][/TD] [TD][B]AD&D 1[/B][/TD] [TD][B]AD&D 2[/B][/TD] [TD][B]D&D 3.0[/B][/TD] [TD][B]D&D 3.5[/B][/TD] [TD][B]D&D 5e[/B][/TD] [TD][B]OneD&D[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Aura of Vitality[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Blindness[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [TD]Illusion[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Necromancy[/TD] [TD]Necromancy[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Deafness[/TD] [TD]Illusion[/TD] [TD]Illusion[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Necromancy[/TD] [TD]Necromancy[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Contingency[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Cure Wounds[/TD] [TD]Necromancy[/TD] [TD]Necromancy[/TD] [TD]Conjuration (Healing)[/TD] [TD]Conjuration (Healing)[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Dancing Lights[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Illusion[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Earthquake[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Flaming Sphere[/TD] [TD]Transmutation/Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Conjuration[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Glibness[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Enchantment[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Hallow[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Heal[/TD] [TD]Necromancy[/TD] [TD]Necromancy[/TD] [TD]Conjuration (Healing)[/TD] [TD]Conjuration (Healing)[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Healing Word[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Mass Cure Wounds[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Conjuration (Healing)[/TD] [TD]Conjuration (Healing)[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Mass Heal[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Conjuration (Healing)[/TD] [TD]Conjuration (Healing)[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Mass Healing Word[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Power Word Heal[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Prayer of Healing[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Produce Flame[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Conjuration[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Reincarnate[/TD] [TD]Necromancy[/TD] [TD]Necromancy[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Necromancy[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sending[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Divination[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Shatter[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Stoneskin[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [TD]Abjuration[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Telepathy[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Divination[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Thunderwave[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]N/A[/TD] [TD]Evocation[/TD] [TD]Transmutation[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [B]NOTES:[/B] [LIST] [*]I did not play 4th edition, so it is not listed here, but I gather from Googling that spell schools went away in 4th edition? Can someone familiar with 4e confirm? [*]Except for the Conjuration (Healing) subschool, I have listed schools in the table above as their 5e equivalents. AD&D 1st edition had necromantic (now necromancy), alteration (now transmutation), and illusion/phantasm (now illusion). [*][I]Blindness[/I] and [I]deafness [/I]were separate spells in AD&D 1st edition (with different schools)[I], [/I]so I have separated them here. They were combined into a single spell from AD&D 2nd edition onward. [*]AD&D 1st edition allowed multi-school spells; [I]flaming sphere [/I]was an alteration/evocation spell. [*][I]Heal[/I] changed schools in this packet, but was not called out with an asterisk. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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