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<blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 7806498" data-attributes="member: 63"><p>Think about it this way. Christ preaches to love your enemy and to forgive those who hurt you. But lots of folks in the Irish Republican Army murdered folks and yet saw themselves as defenders of Catholicism.</p><p></p><p>Vekesh's philosophy was how the majority of eladrin survivors found the strength to carry on and <em>not</em> go on a bloody rampage of revenge, but instead try to rebuild. But a vengeance cult <em>did</em> crop up, and they came up with their own twisted take on Vekesh's philosophy, which is how they'd seduce aggrieved eladrin into joining. "Oh sure, Vekesh says that we should be peaceful and outlast them, but obviously we can't outlast them if they keep killing us. So we have to kill some of them. Vekesh knew that most eladrin were broken by the Great Malice, and were unfit to fight. You're special. You're strong enough to keep fighting. Here, we'll teach you."</p><p></p><p>Over time they shifted from direct retribution against those responsible (similar to, like, Israeli Nazi hunters) to targeting people who they think are hostile to eladrin, and then - especially the cult cells that grew up in foreign places like Flint - to weirdly <em>re</em>-distorting the philosophy to be about protecting the innocent of any race from the predations of the powerful.</p><p></p><p>Most eladrin are wary of the mystics, because they pervert Vekesh's teachings, and because their violence brings blowback. But sometimes you can really use the help of one of those crazy bad-asses, and they're still nominally on your side, <em>and</em> you grew up with them before they went and got radicalized. It's messy.</p><p></p><p>Outside Elfaivar, you mostly only run into male eladrin - usually expatriates or actual Vekeshi mystics who think they're doing good work by killing bad people. But inside Elfaivar, in the enclaves, it's been five hundred years, and so lots of the eladrin who were around for the Great Malice are dying of old age. The younger generations were always born with the usual 50% male, 50% female, and finally the population of people born after the Great Malice has nearly caught up with the population of male survivors.</p><p></p><p>Every enclave has some way to stay hidden or protect itself. I honestly don't recall whether I intended for all of them to be halfway between the real world and the Dreaming, but I think the biggest ones probably did. </p><p></p><p>Kasvarina's anger was because, well, it's sex work. It's nominally <em>consensual</em> sex work, but throughout history most sex work has be coercive. She hasn't grown up in the enclave and had the concept normalized, so her only context is to think of it as prostitution and of women being subservient. And it's certainly more transactional than the way things worked when the practice was first implemented. Not every enclave works the same way, though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RangerWickett, post: 7806498, member: 63"] Think about it this way. Christ preaches to love your enemy and to forgive those who hurt you. But lots of folks in the Irish Republican Army murdered folks and yet saw themselves as defenders of Catholicism. Vekesh's philosophy was how the majority of eladrin survivors found the strength to carry on and [i]not[/i] go on a bloody rampage of revenge, but instead try to rebuild. But a vengeance cult [i]did[/i] crop up, and they came up with their own twisted take on Vekesh's philosophy, which is how they'd seduce aggrieved eladrin into joining. "Oh sure, Vekesh says that we should be peaceful and outlast them, but obviously we can't outlast them if they keep killing us. So we have to kill some of them. Vekesh knew that most eladrin were broken by the Great Malice, and were unfit to fight. You're special. You're strong enough to keep fighting. Here, we'll teach you." Over time they shifted from direct retribution against those responsible (similar to, like, Israeli Nazi hunters) to targeting people who they think are hostile to eladrin, and then - especially the cult cells that grew up in foreign places like Flint - to weirdly [i]re[/i]-distorting the philosophy to be about protecting the innocent of any race from the predations of the powerful. Most eladrin are wary of the mystics, because they pervert Vekesh's teachings, and because their violence brings blowback. But sometimes you can really use the help of one of those crazy bad-asses, and they're still nominally on your side, [I]and[/I] you grew up with them before they went and got radicalized. It's messy. Outside Elfaivar, you mostly only run into male eladrin - usually expatriates or actual Vekeshi mystics who think they're doing good work by killing bad people. But inside Elfaivar, in the enclaves, it's been five hundred years, and so lots of the eladrin who were around for the Great Malice are dying of old age. The younger generations were always born with the usual 50% male, 50% female, and finally the population of people born after the Great Malice has nearly caught up with the population of male survivors. Every enclave has some way to stay hidden or protect itself. I honestly don't recall whether I intended for all of them to be halfway between the real world and the Dreaming, but I think the biggest ones probably did. Kasvarina's anger was because, well, it's sex work. It's nominally [i]consensual[/i] sex work, but throughout history most sex work has be coercive. She hasn't grown up in the enclave and had the concept normalized, so her only context is to think of it as prostitution and of women being subservient. And it's certainly more transactional than the way things worked when the practice was first implemented. Not every enclave works the same way, though. [/QUOTE]
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