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<blockquote data-quote="doghead" data-source="post: 1676260" data-attributes="member: 8243"><p>A5/4CP cost for class ablities is probably the way to go.</p><p></p><p>Do you mean 13 CP? The bardic music ability is a bit of a confused one, with the progressions being less than obvious. At first glance I would say - entry: Bardic Music [5], progression: Inspire courage [4] should be ok. I know that we have talked about this, but I can't remember what conclusions we came to. I'll go back and hunt it down later. </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>DrSpunj and others have done something pretty much along those lines. Its has taken them a lot of time. I don't have the time, or the expertise for something like this. Nor the desire really. Basically, I wanted something that could be pretty much summed up on a single page, and soon committed to memory. Classless Lite. </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>As you said, more work, and more to remember. For Paladins and Ranger analogues, would it work to just take a level of cleric or druid spellcasting. It looks like the former just use cut down versions of the spell list and spells per day tables of the latter - so nothing is really lost. For Bards, this is not quite the case as they have a unique spell list. </p><p></p><p>I did actually have a spell point system sketched out as well, that would have given all spell casters the same basic spell casting ability in each level. Only the spell lists would differ. This would deal with 'the bard problem', but would mean becoming lab rates for another of dogheads half baked ideas (actually, I think its its a good system, but I do find my ideas make alot of people blanche).</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>What worries me about this is sorting out which is what.</p><p></p><p>Maerdwyn, let me know what you are thinking of doing, and what concerns you about it and we'll sort out a solution. </p><p></p><p>I'll get up a copy of the spell point system for consideration.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doghead, post: 1676260, member: 8243"] A5/4CP cost for class ablities is probably the way to go. Do you mean 13 CP? The bardic music ability is a bit of a confused one, with the progressions being less than obvious. At first glance I would say - entry: Bardic Music [5], progression: Inspire courage [4] should be ok. I know that we have talked about this, but I can't remember what conclusions we came to. I'll go back and hunt it down later. DrSpunj and others have done something pretty much along those lines. Its has taken them a lot of time. I don't have the time, or the expertise for something like this. Nor the desire really. Basically, I wanted something that could be pretty much summed up on a single page, and soon committed to memory. Classless Lite. As you said, more work, and more to remember. For Paladins and Ranger analogues, would it work to just take a level of cleric or druid spellcasting. It looks like the former just use cut down versions of the spell list and spells per day tables of the latter - so nothing is really lost. For Bards, this is not quite the case as they have a unique spell list. I did actually have a spell point system sketched out as well, that would have given all spell casters the same basic spell casting ability in each level. Only the spell lists would differ. This would deal with 'the bard problem', but would mean becoming lab rates for another of dogheads half baked ideas (actually, I think its its a good system, but I do find my ideas make alot of people blanche). What worries me about this is sorting out which is what. Maerdwyn, let me know what you are thinking of doing, and what concerns you about it and we'll sort out a solution. I'll get up a copy of the spell point system for consideration. [/QUOTE]
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