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<blockquote data-quote="Redclaw" data-source="post: 4430179" data-attributes="member: 53791"><p>[sblock=Graf] I'm glad you were expecting my response. I was worried that you'd take it the wrong way. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>[sblock=my math]You completely confused me by jumping from my +2 vs. +3 attribute bonus argument to comparing a +2 to a +5, well beyond the issue at hand. Thromb has a 15 Int, giving you a +2 attribute bonus. When you use an intelligence based attack power with the weapon key word, you have a +4 or +5 to hit AC. My paladin Rangok has a 17 cha, giving him a +3 attribute bonus. When he uses a cha based attack power, he attacks with a +5 to hit. If we're attacking an AC 18 creature, Thromb hits on a 14-20, 35% of the time. Rangok hits on an 13-20, 40% of the time. The only time Rangok hits and Thromb misses is on a natural 13. I don't see that at as a major disadvantage.</p><p></p><p>If you're looking at non-weapon attacks, you're talking about other defenses, and from what I've seen so far most first level creatures have defenses down around 11-14 (look at the low-level kobolds for an example). In that case, your +2 bonus is hitting 35-60% of the time. That looks like the sweet spot you described.[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>To escape the math, I would say that there's a good chance Chauzu is going to be aware of this difference and act accordingly. If it were my game, I'd likely make sure that the first magic item was clearly ear-marked for the artificer, for example. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Most importantly, as I said, I understand your frustration. I just worry that you're so focused on it that you'll only get more frustrated and fatalistic about your character. My point is that he's far from useless. He probably shouldn't be using AC attacks against heavily armored foes, but there should be other targets. </p><p></p><p>Are you still up for playing Mirna, by the way? Your action is the last one I'm waiting on. [/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Redclaw, post: 4430179, member: 53791"] [sblock=Graf] I'm glad you were expecting my response. I was worried that you'd take it the wrong way. ;) [sblock=my math]You completely confused me by jumping from my +2 vs. +3 attribute bonus argument to comparing a +2 to a +5, well beyond the issue at hand. Thromb has a 15 Int, giving you a +2 attribute bonus. When you use an intelligence based attack power with the weapon key word, you have a +4 or +5 to hit AC. My paladin Rangok has a 17 cha, giving him a +3 attribute bonus. When he uses a cha based attack power, he attacks with a +5 to hit. If we're attacking an AC 18 creature, Thromb hits on a 14-20, 35% of the time. Rangok hits on an 13-20, 40% of the time. The only time Rangok hits and Thromb misses is on a natural 13. I don't see that at as a major disadvantage. If you're looking at non-weapon attacks, you're talking about other defenses, and from what I've seen so far most first level creatures have defenses down around 11-14 (look at the low-level kobolds for an example). In that case, your +2 bonus is hitting 35-60% of the time. That looks like the sweet spot you described.[/sblock] To escape the math, I would say that there's a good chance Chauzu is going to be aware of this difference and act accordingly. If it were my game, I'd likely make sure that the first magic item was clearly ear-marked for the artificer, for example. :D Most importantly, as I said, I understand your frustration. I just worry that you're so focused on it that you'll only get more frustrated and fatalistic about your character. My point is that he's far from useless. He probably shouldn't be using AC attacks against heavily armored foes, but there should be other targets. Are you still up for playing Mirna, by the way? Your action is the last one I'm waiting on. [/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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