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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3045938" data-attributes="member: 29014"><p>I see it more as that they are slightly stronger, but it is very very difficult to compare because the Warforged's absolutely ludicrously overpowered 1st level feat forces all races to compare unfavourably to it until high levels, and I don't feel like making a high level character for comparison (though to be fair, a high-level Dralasite Dervish might be able to do fun things, or a gish/psywar with the Lion's Charge spell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>On the other hand, you really only need one singular full attack with this Dralasite that hits on all of them to kill a level-appropriate opponent (well, except for things immune to sneak attack, but then that's because I built it as a Rogue hybrid), so coming in from surprise and winning initiative could do that for you. Anyway, I've heard of games where conditions are like those you mention, and in those kinds of games, you have to get charge feats or the Dervish class eventually to make up for the defecit. On the other hand, I also know someone who plays in a game where not only can they almost-always get off full attacks, they can even have a Combat Expertising fighter who somehow tanks and doesn't have the enemies just ignore her for the squishies (which would never work in my games), so I guess you never know.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think that would be such a good idea. The only people I know who actually play 25 PB are enough of low-power nazis (they don't call themselves that, of course--they call 28 PB high-powered and won't listen when you mathematically prove that 4d6 drop lowest will result in higher than 28 on average) that they are unfortunately likely never to allow this race to begin with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 3045938, member: 29014"] I see it more as that they are slightly stronger, but it is very very difficult to compare because the Warforged's absolutely ludicrously overpowered 1st level feat forces all races to compare unfavourably to it until high levels, and I don't feel like making a high level character for comparison (though to be fair, a high-level Dralasite Dervish might be able to do fun things, or a gish/psywar with the Lion's Charge spell. On the other hand, you really only need one singular full attack with this Dralasite that hits on all of them to kill a level-appropriate opponent (well, except for things immune to sneak attack, but then that's because I built it as a Rogue hybrid), so coming in from surprise and winning initiative could do that for you. Anyway, I've heard of games where conditions are like those you mention, and in those kinds of games, you have to get charge feats or the Dervish class eventually to make up for the defecit. On the other hand, I also know someone who plays in a game where not only can they almost-always get off full attacks, they can even have a Combat Expertising fighter who somehow tanks and doesn't have the enemies just ignore her for the squishies (which would never work in my games), so I guess you never know. I don't think that would be such a good idea. The only people I know who actually play 25 PB are enough of low-power nazis (they don't call themselves that, of course--they call 28 PB high-powered and won't listen when you mathematically prove that 4d6 drop lowest will result in higher than 28 on average) that they are unfortunately likely never to allow this race to begin with. [/QUOTE]
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