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<blockquote data-quote="beowulf316" data-source="post: 7294871" data-attributes="member: 6676721"><p>Cleric casts Planer Ally before they get near the fight, contacts their diety, help us defeat this guy, Appropriately aligned celestial shows up to counter all the BS.</p><p></p><p>Planer Binding takes an hour to cast and consumes a 1k gp gem, not really useful to cast during a fight.</p><p></p><p>I have some more ideas, however ultimately this person is the DM, he will get what he wants and the question becomes what does everyone want to play next and no you aren't running and may not even be playing. Honestly I feel sorry for any group he runs for, I suspect they have to deal with purple ninjas (coined after some purple ninja NPCs showed up in a game and wiped out an enemy force leaving the party with nothing to do, now used for any over powered NPC that steals the limelight from the PCs, also called DMPCs). It is always harder to find a DM than it is to find players. </p><p></p><p>Again if this was a one off "build something that can kill my big bad" it would be one thing, but he was talking about a campaign which he has more control over, so actually that his party doesn't have a chance against (unless they avoided side quests to get gear or level up) it is basically his fault.</p><p></p><p>There is nothing about the build that makes me think "wow that's a cool idea", 3 pages of poor me I'm all alone so I'm going to worship an evil deity back story does not make for a memorable villain... it actually sounds like the teenage vampire books and movies. The only interesting thing is how hard he is to kill, but that is only because the DM is mangling the rules. Hard to kill using his mangled version of the rules and him running the game yes, for anyone else that actually follows the rule book not really, and not much of a threat either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="beowulf316, post: 7294871, member: 6676721"] Cleric casts Planer Ally before they get near the fight, contacts their diety, help us defeat this guy, Appropriately aligned celestial shows up to counter all the BS. Planer Binding takes an hour to cast and consumes a 1k gp gem, not really useful to cast during a fight. I have some more ideas, however ultimately this person is the DM, he will get what he wants and the question becomes what does everyone want to play next and no you aren't running and may not even be playing. Honestly I feel sorry for any group he runs for, I suspect they have to deal with purple ninjas (coined after some purple ninja NPCs showed up in a game and wiped out an enemy force leaving the party with nothing to do, now used for any over powered NPC that steals the limelight from the PCs, also called DMPCs). It is always harder to find a DM than it is to find players. Again if this was a one off "build something that can kill my big bad" it would be one thing, but he was talking about a campaign which he has more control over, so actually that his party doesn't have a chance against (unless they avoided side quests to get gear or level up) it is basically his fault. There is nothing about the build that makes me think "wow that's a cool idea", 3 pages of poor me I'm all alone so I'm going to worship an evil deity back story does not make for a memorable villain... it actually sounds like the teenage vampire books and movies. The only interesting thing is how hard he is to kill, but that is only because the DM is mangling the rules. Hard to kill using his mangled version of the rules and him running the game yes, for anyone else that actually follows the rule book not really, and not much of a threat either. [/QUOTE]
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