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(OPTIMIZATION) THE NAMELESS KING ! THE WIZARD's NIGHTMARE! LAST BOSS
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<blockquote data-quote="mgshamster" data-source="post: 7297849" data-attributes="member: 6806321"><p>It's from SCAG. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What about that large army of his? If I can see them, then I know he's around, can stay hidden while buffing up. Otherwise, I was preparing for the smaller challenge of "a caster at 1200' away who pelts you with Eldritch Blast." And in that smaller challenge, he wasn't invisible. </p><p></p><p>But if we go with the invisible + sanctuary + et al., without the army, and ignore sorc point requirements, then I'd agree with you. But even with that, as a rogue, I can use my bonus action to stay hidden after he surprises me with the first shot. His passive perception is crap, so it's really easy to stay hidden for a few rounds until I'm buffed up and can charge him. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fair enough. Still, as above. If he's attacking first, I can hide until I'm buffed up. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's just to keep him near me. Don't want him trying to fly away. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Let's count this as a given. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Remember, sanctuary drops as soon as he attacks me. So if he gets the surprise round and attacks me, then he can no longer benefit from sanctuary. </p><p></p><p>All in all, I feel you have a solid counter. My only issues are that I feel I should have buffs pre battle, as I can see his army or his Simulacrum or his flying sphere of darkness. Alternatively, since he has contingency up, we still have the issues with sorc points and the 10 day limit if he has high cost buffs always active. But if I can't have buffs up pre battle, and he absolutely does, and he gets surprise and initiative, then I feel like taking a round or two to hide should give me plenty of buffs. The only thing that would stop him is teleporting (which he's against due to the chance of failure, per the OP). </p><p></p><p>(Also, for your response to the other build, I'm going to email my friend and see his response. It may be a while before I post it.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mgshamster, post: 7297849, member: 6806321"] It's from SCAG. What about that large army of his? If I can see them, then I know he's around, can stay hidden while buffing up. Otherwise, I was preparing for the smaller challenge of "a caster at 1200' away who pelts you with Eldritch Blast." And in that smaller challenge, he wasn't invisible. But if we go with the invisible + sanctuary + et al., without the army, and ignore sorc point requirements, then I'd agree with you. But even with that, as a rogue, I can use my bonus action to stay hidden after he surprises me with the first shot. His passive perception is crap, so it's really easy to stay hidden for a few rounds until I'm buffed up and can charge him. Fair enough. Still, as above. If he's attacking first, I can hide until I'm buffed up. It's just to keep him near me. Don't want him trying to fly away. :) Let's count this as a given. Remember, sanctuary drops as soon as he attacks me. So if he gets the surprise round and attacks me, then he can no longer benefit from sanctuary. All in all, I feel you have a solid counter. My only issues are that I feel I should have buffs pre battle, as I can see his army or his Simulacrum or his flying sphere of darkness. Alternatively, since he has contingency up, we still have the issues with sorc points and the 10 day limit if he has high cost buffs always active. But if I can't have buffs up pre battle, and he absolutely does, and he gets surprise and initiative, then I feel like taking a round or two to hide should give me plenty of buffs. The only thing that would stop him is teleporting (which he's against due to the chance of failure, per the OP). (Also, for your response to the other build, I'm going to email my friend and see his response. It may be a while before I post it.) [/QUOTE]
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