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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7299165" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>1. Maybe I'm missing the rule where the Druid can cast spells subtly while in animal form. I know they can cast while in animal form but declaring that the casting is subtle gives many additional benefits and I cannot find the rule for that at the moment. Basically you will be able to get the drop on Nameless King (causing a surprise round) but you will not be able to go unnoticed otherwise.</p><p></p><p>2. Nameless One does not keep sanctuary all the time buffed. He will sometimes cast it in battle though. He also will sometimes prebuff it before he initiates a fight when he gets the drop on his enemy.</p><p></p><p>3. Your passive perception will overcome his stealth.</p><p></p><p>4. Feeblemind is a very dangerous spell for him.</p><p></p><p>5. Yes simulacrum can be dispelled. Though having dispel magic doesn't give you the ability to discern before the cast whether it's the Simulcarum or Nameless King himself.</p><p></p><p>6. While the original poster called for an army of undead he forgot the limitations trying to periodically use higher level spell slots cause on sorcerery point generation. It's likely Nameless King can't keep up enough undead to matter while keeping higher level spells prepared and there are obvious disadvantages to having undead (giving away your presence). Personally I believe it's better for the build if undead are altogether dropped from the build.</p><p></p><p>Here's how I see this fight going.</p><p></p><p>1. You get the drop on Nameless King and Simulcarum. You are unsure which is which. Your best chance at winning the fight is figuring out which is which. Assuming you are successful then you want to cast feeblemind at Nameless King. This is where the battle begins (because you can cast it in beast form but there's no rule that it does so subtely and even if it did I think the normal rule is that targeting an oppontent with a spell or attack normally ends stealth or in this case would end your "harmless animal" ruse.</p><p></p><p>2. Roll Initiative. You get a surprise round but Nameless King has more dex and thus a better chance of going first. In this scenario he wins initiative.</p><p></p><p>3. In the surprise round you cast feeblemind at nameless king. He counterspells it. </p><p></p><p>4. He starts attacking you, you wildshape into something with some hp and good fly speed and start attacking him. Everytime you are knocked out of wildshape you change back.</p><p></p><p>5. Basically even if the fight turns hard you win because you are a flying bag of hp that can always find him. Good job. You defeated Nameless King with a single level 20 Druid. Basically he stands no chance against you. Though he can probably escape death very easily by wishing to teleport away before he dies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7299165, member: 6795602"] 1. Maybe I'm missing the rule where the Druid can cast spells subtly while in animal form. I know they can cast while in animal form but declaring that the casting is subtle gives many additional benefits and I cannot find the rule for that at the moment. Basically you will be able to get the drop on Nameless King (causing a surprise round) but you will not be able to go unnoticed otherwise. 2. Nameless One does not keep sanctuary all the time buffed. He will sometimes cast it in battle though. He also will sometimes prebuff it before he initiates a fight when he gets the drop on his enemy. 3. Your passive perception will overcome his stealth. 4. Feeblemind is a very dangerous spell for him. 5. Yes simulacrum can be dispelled. Though having dispel magic doesn't give you the ability to discern before the cast whether it's the Simulcarum or Nameless King himself. 6. While the original poster called for an army of undead he forgot the limitations trying to periodically use higher level spell slots cause on sorcerery point generation. It's likely Nameless King can't keep up enough undead to matter while keeping higher level spells prepared and there are obvious disadvantages to having undead (giving away your presence). Personally I believe it's better for the build if undead are altogether dropped from the build. Here's how I see this fight going. 1. You get the drop on Nameless King and Simulcarum. You are unsure which is which. Your best chance at winning the fight is figuring out which is which. Assuming you are successful then you want to cast feeblemind at Nameless King. This is where the battle begins (because you can cast it in beast form but there's no rule that it does so subtely and even if it did I think the normal rule is that targeting an oppontent with a spell or attack normally ends stealth or in this case would end your "harmless animal" ruse. 2. Roll Initiative. You get a surprise round but Nameless King has more dex and thus a better chance of going first. In this scenario he wins initiative. 3. In the surprise round you cast feeblemind at nameless king. He counterspells it. 4. He starts attacking you, you wildshape into something with some hp and good fly speed and start attacking him. Everytime you are knocked out of wildshape you change back. 5. Basically even if the fight turns hard you win because you are a flying bag of hp that can always find him. Good job. You defeated Nameless King with a single level 20 Druid. Basically he stands no chance against you. Though he can probably escape death very easily by wishing to teleport away before he dies. [/QUOTE]
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