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<blockquote data-quote="wordsmithpdx" data-source="post: 3892467" data-attributes="member: 57283"><p>Not that Warcraft (and WoW) haven't had some good ideas, but I have a knee-jerk reaction against the "Warcrafting" of D&D. A ton of the concept art has seemed very Warcrafty to me, as have the racial/class choices (Tiefling warlock anyone? How about those fire elemental guys who are, for some reason, wearing armor?).</p><p></p><p>Can anyone convince me that the Warcraft influence would be a good thing? The roots of the original D&D tropes are generally LotR rip-offs, yeah...so this would just be another rip-off. But the WoW themes and characters are so much more high-fantasy, fantastical, and just plain goofy. The LotR stuff at least gives you a solid, somewhat gritty baseline, and you can "fantastic it up" into Forgotten Realms or Eberron if you want. But if the baseline is Eberron or WoW level of fantasticness, then us gritty players/DMs will probably start looking for a system that more closely reflects that.</p><p></p><p>No final judgements here, obviously, just some ideas and speculation. I'd love to be convinced otherwise!</p><p></p><p>-Rob</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wordsmithpdx, post: 3892467, member: 57283"] Not that Warcraft (and WoW) haven't had some good ideas, but I have a knee-jerk reaction against the "Warcrafting" of D&D. A ton of the concept art has seemed very Warcrafty to me, as have the racial/class choices (Tiefling warlock anyone? How about those fire elemental guys who are, for some reason, wearing armor?). Can anyone convince me that the Warcraft influence would be a good thing? The roots of the original D&D tropes are generally LotR rip-offs, yeah...so this would just be another rip-off. But the WoW themes and characters are so much more high-fantasy, fantastical, and just plain goofy. The LotR stuff at least gives you a solid, somewhat gritty baseline, and you can "fantastic it up" into Forgotten Realms or Eberron if you want. But if the baseline is Eberron or WoW level of fantasticness, then us gritty players/DMs will probably start looking for a system that more closely reflects that. No final judgements here, obviously, just some ideas and speculation. I'd love to be convinced otherwise! -Rob [/QUOTE]
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