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Order Vs Twilight Cleric. Neo Warlord Abuse?
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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9214724" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>The darkvision is pretty busted, but not usually gamebreaking unless you are in an underdark type campaign and the party does not need light for itself.</p><p></p><p>We had a character die in a campaign where I was playing a TC. Like I said IME above 7th level it is no longer the strongest cleric. Around 3 and 4 it is a lot stronger than most other characters, including most Clerics, but Cleric is probably the most powerful class at this level and Death Cleric is competitive with it even here. Level 4 or 5 it is pretty balanced with the best Clerics and over 7th level I would say it is weaker overall than Tempest, Light, Peace or Order.</p><p></p><p>The main reason why is action economy. Twilight Cleric has the best Channel Divinity in the game, but CD is not as important at high levels when better actions are available, and other Clerics are often have better action economy with CD that don't require an action as well as additional bonus actions or reactions. Tempest for example is able to max lightning damage with CD without using an action and can move enemies with lightning damage in addition to getting reactions from his subclass (and being able to move enemies when she uses that reaction).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9214724, member: 7030563"] The darkvision is pretty busted, but not usually gamebreaking unless you are in an underdark type campaign and the party does not need light for itself. We had a character die in a campaign where I was playing a TC. Like I said IME above 7th level it is no longer the strongest cleric. Around 3 and 4 it is a lot stronger than most other characters, including most Clerics, but Cleric is probably the most powerful class at this level and Death Cleric is competitive with it even here. Level 4 or 5 it is pretty balanced with the best Clerics and over 7th level I would say it is weaker overall than Tempest, Light, Peace or Order. The main reason why is action economy. Twilight Cleric has the best Channel Divinity in the game, but CD is not as important at high levels when better actions are available, and other Clerics are often have better action economy with CD that don't require an action as well as additional bonus actions or reactions. Tempest for example is able to max lightning damage with CD without using an action and can move enemies with lightning damage in addition to getting reactions from his subclass (and being able to move enemies when she uses that reaction). [/QUOTE]
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