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Order Vs Twilight Cleric. Neo Warlord Abuse?
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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 9248674" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>While Embodiment of Law for those bonus action spells is nice, it is a bit underpowered if you don't have a main action that is strong and can be used with the bonus action spell. If you swap a strong bonus action and weak action for a strong action and weak bonus action you're not really gaining that much. </p><p></p><p>To that end, I found that dropping one level of Cleric of Order on an Archer PC that has spell slots is a ridiculously strong option. I played a Gloomstalker Ranger to 5, then took 1 level of Cleric of Order. At 3rd level I gained that Gloomstalker attack and stealth abilities. At 4 I gained Sharpshooter. At 5 I gained Multiattack and 2nd level spell spells. At 6th level I gained the ability to turn my spell slots into bonus action "I heal you for a small bit and give you an attack". Then 7 through 11 were Sorcerer levels that gave me more bonus action spells (especially at 9th when I could metamagic quicken some spells) and eventually haste. That PC ended up being a real powerhouse. It wasn't my goal to build an optimized PC, but that was a pretty strong contender for one of my most powerful PCs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 9248674, member: 2629"] While Embodiment of Law for those bonus action spells is nice, it is a bit underpowered if you don't have a main action that is strong and can be used with the bonus action spell. If you swap a strong bonus action and weak action for a strong action and weak bonus action you're not really gaining that much. To that end, I found that dropping one level of Cleric of Order on an Archer PC that has spell slots is a ridiculously strong option. I played a Gloomstalker Ranger to 5, then took 1 level of Cleric of Order. At 3rd level I gained that Gloomstalker attack and stealth abilities. At 4 I gained Sharpshooter. At 5 I gained Multiattack and 2nd level spell spells. At 6th level I gained the ability to turn my spell slots into bonus action "I heal you for a small bit and give you an attack". Then 7 through 11 were Sorcerer levels that gave me more bonus action spells (especially at 9th when I could metamagic quicken some spells) and eventually haste. That PC ended up being a real powerhouse. It wasn't my goal to build an optimized PC, but that was a pretty strong contender for one of my most powerful PCs. [/QUOTE]
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