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<blockquote data-quote="ColonelHardisson" data-source="post: 6106" data-attributes="member: 363"><p>Finally got a chance to watch it. I enjoyed it. A few random thoughts:</p><p></p><p>* 20 years old is old for a ship, particularly a Minbari ship? That just seemed odd to me.</p><p></p><p>* I liked the lead actor. He had a lot of screen presence.</p><p></p><p>* I also liked the first officer - Dulann, was it? Anyway, I found the dry sense of humor and low-key horseplay between him and the captain to have a ring of truth to it; that is, it almost felt like how real friends would hit each other with zingers. Problem is, the character was hobbled with the "hovering on death's door" storyline, which I felt hurt the development of the character - we just get to really liking the guy, and he's mostly delirious or unconscious for half the film.</p><p></p><p>* As mentioned earlier in the thread, the Rangers sure don't seem very elite to me. I mean, we had two of them taken out by a diplomat! OK, so the guy MAY have been a highly trained secret agent, but they sure didn't establish that very well in the story if that was the case.</p><p></p><p>* The Drazi - Turks? - didn't seem very Ranger-like at all. I'm not saying Rangers can't be dumb, but come on...</p><p></p><p>* The ship was, for the most part, pretty cool. However, I have gotten very tired of the "leaving before all systems are installed or ready" device that seems to be a pre-requisite for any scifi series lately. The Star Trek movies set a bad precedent for this, what with the Enterprise being in sad shape for, let's see, the first three movies, and absent for almost the entire 4th. When will film and TV makers get the idea that ships are characters themselves in these shows and movies? A lot of us would like to see the main ship do some butt-kicking once in a while. I mean, the Millennium Falcon may have acted and looked like junk, but it got the job done when it needed doing.</p><p></p><p>* The fire control system is weird. Is it meant to be a system that was used on ships at one time, but was dropped for modern ships? If not, why wouldn't the ships of B5 - like the Whitestars - use it? It is an interesting idea.</p><p></p><p>* In general, I liked the attitudes of all the crew. It seemed rather realistic in nature for them to act the way they did.</p><p></p><p>* The bit about the Rangers never retreating reflected something about the Minbari that has been a recurring theme with them for the history of B5 shows - they're extraordinarily stubborn, and love adhering to rules. This makes sense when you consider that they were the "proteges" of the Vorlons, the Law side of the Law-Chaos conflict between the Vorlons and Shadows. The Minbari are a very Lawful race, in D&D alignment terms. At their worst, they were extremely Lawful Neutral - during the Earth-Minbari War. At their best, they are Lawful Good - during the Shadow War.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ColonelHardisson, post: 6106, member: 363"] Finally got a chance to watch it. I enjoyed it. A few random thoughts: * 20 years old is old for a ship, particularly a Minbari ship? That just seemed odd to me. * I liked the lead actor. He had a lot of screen presence. * I also liked the first officer - Dulann, was it? Anyway, I found the dry sense of humor and low-key horseplay between him and the captain to have a ring of truth to it; that is, it almost felt like how real friends would hit each other with zingers. Problem is, the character was hobbled with the "hovering on death's door" storyline, which I felt hurt the development of the character - we just get to really liking the guy, and he's mostly delirious or unconscious for half the film. * As mentioned earlier in the thread, the Rangers sure don't seem very elite to me. I mean, we had two of them taken out by a diplomat! OK, so the guy MAY have been a highly trained secret agent, but they sure didn't establish that very well in the story if that was the case. * The Drazi - Turks? - didn't seem very Ranger-like at all. I'm not saying Rangers can't be dumb, but come on... * The ship was, for the most part, pretty cool. However, I have gotten very tired of the "leaving before all systems are installed or ready" device that seems to be a pre-requisite for any scifi series lately. The Star Trek movies set a bad precedent for this, what with the Enterprise being in sad shape for, let's see, the first three movies, and absent for almost the entire 4th. When will film and TV makers get the idea that ships are characters themselves in these shows and movies? A lot of us would like to see the main ship do some butt-kicking once in a while. I mean, the Millennium Falcon may have acted and looked like junk, but it got the job done when it needed doing. * The fire control system is weird. Is it meant to be a system that was used on ships at one time, but was dropped for modern ships? If not, why wouldn't the ships of B5 - like the Whitestars - use it? It is an interesting idea. * In general, I liked the attitudes of all the crew. It seemed rather realistic in nature for them to act the way they did. * The bit about the Rangers never retreating reflected something about the Minbari that has been a recurring theme with them for the history of B5 shows - they're extraordinarily stubborn, and love adhering to rules. This makes sense when you consider that they were the "proteges" of the Vorlons, the Law side of the Law-Chaos conflict between the Vorlons and Shadows. The Minbari are a very Lawful race, in D&D alignment terms. At their worst, they were extremely Lawful Neutral - during the Earth-Minbari War. At their best, they are Lawful Good - during the Shadow War. [/QUOTE]
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