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<blockquote data-quote="arcseed" data-source="post: 152008" data-attributes="member: 3281"><p>I don't really wanna get in a political argument here... but, well, I can't quite let this go.</p><p></p><p>If the invisible hand is a conspiracy, if people acting out of pure self-interest without consulting anyone else is a conspiracy, then count me in on this one. Along with the Evil Government, the Evil Corporations, and several million americans who just like being able to drive 300 miles on a ten dollar bill.</p><p></p><p>Now, maybe, yes, the oil companies want to sell more oil at higher prices. And I'm sure the automobile industry doesn't really wanna spend money retooling their prodction lines. But why invent a conspiracy when what you see can be explained perfectly well without? Gas is CHEAP. Particularly in the US. But even in countries where taxes make gas more than twice as expensive there's still not much demand for alternate fuels, mainly 'coz gas still gets you there cheaper. The conspiracy to keep gasoline vehicles alive is a conspiracy of the consumers, who just want their transportation needs filled cheaply. (And 'stylishly', I guess. Ick. I don't care for SUVs either.)</p><p></p><p>And there are alternate fuel vehicles being produced: I know of a few places where the buses are run on natural gas, and I've seen natural gas cabs. So Ford, at least, has one production line able to bust out a Crown Victoria that runs on natural gas, and if you really wanna drive an alternate fuel car, I'm sure you could make arrangements. Don't wanna pay a few grand more for your car, you say? Don't wanna deal with a more expensive and less convenient fuel system? Neither does anybody else.</p><p></p><p>And, despite burning that horrible, filthy gasoline, cars these days are really very good about emissions. Compare the smog in LA to what it was 10, 20, 30 years ago. Despite a LOT more cars on the road, and a lot more gasoline being burned, the air is better now than it has been for years, and continues to improve. Someone (Audi, maybe?), due to popular demand, just produced a car whose exhaust, they claim, has less CO2, NOx, and particulates than the air coming into the intake in an average city. The claim looked good when I checked it out, I wish I could find it now...</p><p></p><p>No one wants to pollute the environment any more than they have to. The auto manufacturers really aren't afraid of innovation. But no one is going to be able to replace the gasoline economy from above. It's going to have to wait on other technologies becoming cheaper than gasoline, either through technological innovation or gasoline becoming scarce, which isn't going to happen any time soon. </p><p></p><p>Besides, if, as you say, the conspiracy is to keep oil prices high, wouldn't we stop buying oil from the Middle East, so Texas and our buddies in Russia could sell their oil for a bit more?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="arcseed, post: 152008, member: 3281"] I don't really wanna get in a political argument here... but, well, I can't quite let this go. If the invisible hand is a conspiracy, if people acting out of pure self-interest without consulting anyone else is a conspiracy, then count me in on this one. Along with the Evil Government, the Evil Corporations, and several million americans who just like being able to drive 300 miles on a ten dollar bill. Now, maybe, yes, the oil companies want to sell more oil at higher prices. And I'm sure the automobile industry doesn't really wanna spend money retooling their prodction lines. But why invent a conspiracy when what you see can be explained perfectly well without? Gas is CHEAP. Particularly in the US. But even in countries where taxes make gas more than twice as expensive there's still not much demand for alternate fuels, mainly 'coz gas still gets you there cheaper. The conspiracy to keep gasoline vehicles alive is a conspiracy of the consumers, who just want their transportation needs filled cheaply. (And 'stylishly', I guess. Ick. I don't care for SUVs either.) And there are alternate fuel vehicles being produced: I know of a few places where the buses are run on natural gas, and I've seen natural gas cabs. So Ford, at least, has one production line able to bust out a Crown Victoria that runs on natural gas, and if you really wanna drive an alternate fuel car, I'm sure you could make arrangements. Don't wanna pay a few grand more for your car, you say? Don't wanna deal with a more expensive and less convenient fuel system? Neither does anybody else. And, despite burning that horrible, filthy gasoline, cars these days are really very good about emissions. Compare the smog in LA to what it was 10, 20, 30 years ago. Despite a LOT more cars on the road, and a lot more gasoline being burned, the air is better now than it has been for years, and continues to improve. Someone (Audi, maybe?), due to popular demand, just produced a car whose exhaust, they claim, has less CO2, NOx, and particulates than the air coming into the intake in an average city. The claim looked good when I checked it out, I wish I could find it now... No one wants to pollute the environment any more than they have to. The auto manufacturers really aren't afraid of innovation. But no one is going to be able to replace the gasoline economy from above. It's going to have to wait on other technologies becoming cheaper than gasoline, either through technological innovation or gasoline becoming scarce, which isn't going to happen any time soon. Besides, if, as you say, the conspiracy is to keep oil prices high, wouldn't we stop buying oil from the Middle East, so Texas and our buddies in Russia could sell their oil for a bit more? [/QUOTE]
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